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Bilbo when I referenced that man is bigger stronger faster, more stamina, lives longer, lives in all environments etc. No to mention the social and mental evolution to move from a hunter gatherer society to a agricultural...serf system...capitalism etc. Plus a refining of economic(barter to banking), Religious(poly->monotheistic), Language systems etc etc. You spoke of ancient man have denser bones, possibly being bigger and living much longer(i didn't feel like finding and quoting the post call me lazy). Lets just work from the last 4000 years. Well does this not suggest a gradual evolution of man (albeit not on a genetic level)? I've just always felt there was much more to Darwins theory than the monkey to man aspect. That part just happens to be the sexiest.
Ok, lets really examine this. bigger, stronger, faster- the Bible says man used to live 900+ years. We have fossilized evidence of plants animals and yes even people that were much bigger than today. There isn't a dispute about "prehistoric" life being bigger, stronger than we are today. That fact alone is inconsistent with the evolution theory. We would actually be getting smaller, plants, animals and people.

Scientifically we only know what 5-15% of what the brain does. It has been said that we only utilize 10% of our brain capacity on average. Did we start out at 100% or 0% to get to where we are today? I think it's harder to prove less. There are some very impressive ancient buildings that we can't produce today with our technology. Pyramid, stonehenge, easter island statues, etc.

Socially we have very full prisons, jerry springer, divorce, teen suicides, need any more

Economic- do you really understand fractional reserve banking? And you think it's a good thing. Our country is so far in debt that if they sold everything owned in the country it wouldn't pay it off.

Language- you think english is more expressive than other older languages? Latin, greek, hebrew all of which are much older than english are much more complicated than our watered down language.

And based upon observable laws and characteristics now, evolution just doesn't make sense....
experiment
print off a copy of this post and take it to a copier. make a copy, then make a copy of the copy, and do this numerous times. Does each "generation" of copies get better or worse?


For starters lets not use the Bible as a credible source, b/c it isn't. If we have fossilized remains of humans who were bigger on average than man is today maybe this is indicative of a necessary change to our size at the very least it show a noticeable change over the years. But if you read my post you would have seen that I wasn't talking about prehistoric man only over the last 4000 years. What makes you think that we couldn't build the pyramids/stonehenge/easter island statues? Thats just absurd. Have you ever worked on a construction site? Your argument about social degradation is a little misinformed. Bone up on your history a little bit more. We live in a much better world than just a hundred years ago but as humans we have equal capacity for evil as good, and with instant worldwide media you get to see every missdeed from around the globe instantly. Full jails, jerry springer, and teen suicide pale in comparison to the daily violence and barbaric lifestyles of our not to distant forefathers. I don't pretend to be an expert on world economic models, but are you really suggesting that a planet goverened by barter and trade would be better than our current global economy? Try trading some fresh deer pelts for your next car. I never said anything about english in my previous post so lets not be so specific. Are you really going to suggest that prehistoric man's speach communication hasn't been refined at all?

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e‧volve  /ɪˈvɒlv/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[i-volv] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation verb, e‧volved, e‧volv‧ing.

–verb (used with object) 1. to develop gradually: to evolve a scheme.

I gotta be honest it seems what I described sounds alot like "to develop gradually". I agree that many of the changes are due to environmental surroundings, but why else would they. Something had to motivate change or we'd still be living in caves with hair down to our ass.