Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post
I've just spent nearly two months in hospital so have current first-hand experience of the good and bad. I waited 14 hours to get a bed on a ward, but in my experience, considering the daily pressure nurses/staff are under, the actual care was excellent - the majority are competent at their job (which I guess should be the expected average), with every Nurse Ratched there were half-a-dozen angels.

Can't believe how many people live in their own filth (before being forced to clean), shit and piss themselves and refuse to speak english (the last point is not linked to the others). And the amount that have the cheek to demand a special/particular menu. And get physical/abusive with the nurses (always female nurses). And should be in a mental home. And are fucking time wasters (some poor souls definitely/obviously enjoyed living in the hospital more than outside).

A shout out to the young Filipino nurses - several on my ward - who were the most excellent/dedicated/caring/upbeat lovely people i've ever came across. An eye opener for anyone that believes all immigration is a wrongun.
I hate that you have been ill Fenster, many well wishes to you and for your speedy recovery.


The problem with a social safety net of any kind is IMMIGRATION especially ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION. You have people who do not and have not paid into the system, they have no skin in the game but demand the same rights. Of course under the Hippocratic oath it is the duty of any and all doctors and nurses to provide care for their fellow human beings regardless of their ability to be paid for such services. This then becomes a moral quandary much like "If you need medicine and the medicine is more than you can afford is it immoral for you to steal the medicine if that is the only means by which you can survive"