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    I think frampton will win a bit easier this time and the fight won't be as good. I could be wrong but Santa Cruz only has one speed. I would be surprised if he could adjust from the first fight.

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    Default Re: Carl Frampton vs Leo Santa Cruz - 29/1/17

    Haymon's shows have a reputation for bad decisions. I think Frampton will win but I'm not so sure the judges will see it like that. You know Santa Cruz is going to throw a hundred punches a round and that's all the excuse the judges would need to give it to him.

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    Default Re: Carl Frampton vs Leo Santa Cruz - 29/1/17

    Santa Cruz will win a close decision and there will be a third fight
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    Default Re: Carl Frampton vs Leo Santa Cruz - 29/1/17

    Nice to see you've all got your excuses lined up before the fight even happens. The first fight was nip and tuck and the judges gave Frampton a fair victory. But this time, in the same country that was fair last time, the judges will use nationality to bias. Sound logic(heavy sarcasm if not obvious)

    Let me present another scenario. When someone benefits from bias in USA it is not about nationality it is about marketability. I'm sure to nationalistic people that is hard to grasp. But here it is obvious.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Swanson View Post
    Nice to see you've all got your excuses lined up before the fight even happens. The first fight was nip and tuck and the judges gave Frampton a fair victory. But this time, in the same country that was fair last time, the judges will use nationality to bias. Sound logic(heavy sarcasm if not obvious)

    Let me present another scenario. When someone benefits from bias in USA it is not about nationality it is about marketability. I'm sure to nationalistic people that is hard to grasp. But here it is obvious.
    I've tried to tell people here that same thing. In the US, it is about marketability and not nationality. Just because a fighter is from the US, doesn't mean that they will be the more marketable one.

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    Default Re: Carl Frampton vs Leo Santa Cruz - 29/1/17

    If its about marketability, then surely the Irish heritage of Frampton can be just as valuable as the Mexican heritage for Santa Cruz. After all, we've seen guys like John Duddy and Andy Lee spend a lot more time on big shows in the US than equally talented boxers from the Seychelles or some other backwater would have done.

    Anyway, I like the look of this fight for Frampton, good first fight, and I think Santa Cruz is going to be hard pushed to change up enough to get the victory. Looking forward to seeing Lee Selby on another big card too. Will just have to be strict enough with the beer so I'm sober enough to remember it.

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    Default Re: Carl Frampton vs Leo Santa Cruz - 29/1/17

    Plenty of American fans - including writers and the Santa Cruz team themselves - claimed Cruz was disadvantaged by the first fight being on the east coast. It's naive or disingenuous to claim American based fighters don't receive home advantage.

    Cruz himself said - Las Vegas is his second home and will have the greater fan support this time.
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