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    He tends to be a tad slow and linear as already stated. His strength seems to be in his ability to take a punch and then blast you out with strong punches. He seems to be fairly accurate against the aging slicksters and sitting duck type opponents. I believe a counter puncher with good head movement, angles and footwork could frustrate him. Good punch resistance being a given.
    As spicoli said he is guilty of getting caught in the fray, while in haste to land his punches. A fighter that can fight well going backwards can step back, slip, counter pivot out and pick away at this guy. A jab to the mid section can keep him from setting his feet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by J_Undisputed View Post
    He tends to be a tad slow and linear as already stated. His strength seems to be in his ability to take a punch and then blast you out with strong punches. He seems to be fairly accurate against the aging slicksters and sitting duck type opponents. I believe a counter puncher with good head movement, angles and footwork could frustrate him. Good punch resistance being a given.
    As spicoli said he is guilty of getting caught in the fray, while in haste to land his punches. A fighter that can fight well going backwards can step back, slip, counter pivot out and pick away at this guy. A jab to the mid section can keep him from setting his feet.
    This implies he is made for Ward who would beat him?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by J_Undisputed View Post
    He tends to be a tad slow and linear as already stated. His strength seems to be in his ability to take a punch and then blast you out with strong punches. He seems to be fairly accurate against the aging slicksters and sitting duck type opponents. I believe a counter puncher with good head movement, angles and footwork could frustrate him. Good punch resistance being a given.
    As spicoli said he is guilty of getting caught in the fray, while in haste to land his punches. A fighter that can fight well going backwards can step back, slip, counter pivot out and pick away at this guy. A jab to the mid section can keep him from setting his feet.
    This implies he is made for Ward who would beat him?
    Yes, or at least i think there's a high probability of a Barrera repeat-ish kind of performance. Wards can still get caught like he did against kovalev (opening the gate for the proverbial punchers chance) but i think wards entire life flashed in front of his eyes with the krusher knock down and i doubt Ward is anxious to repeat that. So he would be probably pick away at this kid and drag him into deep water before he opened up at all. Beterbiev doesn't really have the fan base to enter the ward sweepstakes as is right now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by J_Undisputed View Post
    He tends to be a tad slow and linear as already stated. His strength seems to be in his ability to take a punch and then blast you out with strong punches. He seems to be fairly accurate against the aging slicksters and sitting duck type opponents. I believe a counter puncher with good head movement, angles and footwork could frustrate him. Good punch resistance being a given.
    As spicoli said he is guilty of getting caught in the fray, while in haste to land his punches. A fighter that can fight well going backwards can step back, slip, counter pivot out and pick away at this guy. A jab to the mid section can keep him from setting his feet.
    That's a tall oderr for most at 175. My biggest gripe with him is he seems to pre-determine what he will do. There is not a flow to him because he does not react quickly. Oddly, he seems to be a decent counter puncher at times in spite of this. But again, it is pre-determined. You can see him wait and wait for the counter he has in mind.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Swanson View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by J_Undisputed View Post
    He tends to be a tad slow and linear as already stated. His strength seems to be in his ability to take a punch and then blast you out with strong punches. He seems to be fairly accurate against the aging slicksters and sitting duck type opponents. I believe a counter puncher with good head movement, angles and footwork could frustrate him. Good punch resistance being a given.
    As spicoli said he is guilty of getting caught in the fray, while in haste to land his punches. A fighter that can fight well going backwards can step back, slip, counter pivot out and pick away at this guy. A jab to the mid section can keep him from setting his feet.
    That's a tall oderr for most at 175. My biggest gripe with him is he seems to pre-determine what he will do. There is not a flow to him because he does not react quickly. Oddly, he seems to be a decent counter puncher at times in spite of this. But again, it is pre-determined. You can see him wait and wait for the counter he has in mind.
    I'll agree. Yes i've noticed that too. He's not Ivan drago chasing someone around the ring with his right hand cocked but the seek and destroy stalk walk engage has probably only worked so far because he fought guys that haven't been able exploit his lack of on the fly decision making. He's not a very cerebral fighter and kinda raw. Plan A may not be the only plan but it takes him a while to adjust. I don't even think it has to be ward. A blown up shop worn Andre dirrell might give this guy (a more technically correct Abraham at this point rather than Lt Heavy cross between GGG and Provodnikov) fits. I haven't given up on him yet but I really he think he needs more than Ramsey (decent trainer) and Scully to get him to that next level.

    A check hook is this guys kryptonite... he hopes that stiff hard jab takes the edge off.
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    Default Re: Weaknesses in Beterbiev.

    Beterbiev is exciting isn't he

    I think out of world boxing I could be most interested in who he fights next than anyone else, the light heavies could be a very interesting division

    Stevenson could do with getting involved tho
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    Quote Originally Posted by erics44 View Post
    Beterbiev is exciting isn't he

    I think out of world boxing I could be most interested in who he fights next than anyone else, the light heavies could be a very interesting division

    Stevenson could do with getting involved tho
    It's Mikey Garcia for me, I want to know his next move.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by erics44 View Post
    Beterbiev is exciting isn't he

    I think out of world boxing I could be most interested in who he fights next than anyone else, the light heavies could be a very interesting division

    Stevenson could do with getting involved tho
    It's Mikey Garcia for me, I want to know his next move.
    I agree, I was very interested in what Garcia is going to look like continuing his career. I wish I could say the same for Spence at this point, but for right now. I'm just not seeing him often enough with those measuring stick type opponents. As for Beterbiev, I think he have been a little more anxious to get in the mix at 175. Not saying Kovalev should dictate this guys career but everyone knows Kovalevs drying out on the vine while Beterbiev isn't really stepping up till recently. (Strangely enough i think the next fight will tell us more about Barrera than it will about Beterbiev)
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    Quote Originally Posted by J_Undisputed View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by erics44 View Post
    Beterbiev is exciting isn't he

    I think out of world boxing I could be most interested in who he fights next than anyone else, the light heavies could be a very interesting division

    Stevenson could do with getting involved tho
    It's Mikey Garcia for me, I want to know his next move.
    I agree, I was very interested in what Garcia is going to look like continuing his career. I wish I could say the same for Spence at this point, but for right now. I'm just not seeing him often enough with those measuring stick type opponents. As for Beterbiev, I think he have been a little more anxious to get in the mix at 175. Not saying Kovalev should dictate this guys career but everyone knows Kovalevs drying out on the vine while Beterbiev isn't really stepping up till recently. (Strangely enough i think the next fight will tell us more about Barrera than it will about Beterbiev)
    issue with Garcia is is that i don't think the division is as interesting

    he could be miles better than beterbiev lb4lb but whos he gonna fight that's a top level fight? the linarez crolla winner?
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