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    Default Re: Deontay Wilder vs Gerald Washington Feb. 25

    Quote Originally Posted by Primo Carnera View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by erics44 View Post
    Washington looks credible on paper, decent win over Eddie Chambers

    BoxRec - Gerald Washington

    itd have been nice for wilder to fighter a bigger name but its not bad for a 4 week replacement

    I hope wilder has a big fight next mind
    as Eric says, it's not a bad replacement. Makes me laugh when people criticize these guys as if they're a piece of shit . Whereas if this fellah was a Brit, he'd be the second coming of Christ! look at his record and tell me which Brits have better names on their CV's.
    Fury before beating Wlad - NO . Had a World title shot.
    Chisora - NO. well nobody that he's actually beaten. Had a World title shot.
    Hughie Fury - NO. Being lined up for a World Title shot.
    Dillian Whyte - NO. Being touted for a World title shot.
    so before people say "He can't fight" or "He's an ex-tiddlywinks player", think about how you see the above names.
    18-(12 KO)-0-1 is great....HE'S 34 FUCKING YEARS OLD!

    That tells me if this guy was going to be somebody he would have done it by now.

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    Default Re: Deontay Wilder vs Gerald Washington Feb. 25

    Quote Originally Posted by El Kabong View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Primo Carnera View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by erics44 View Post
    Washington looks credible on paper, decent win over Eddie Chambers

    BoxRec - Gerald Washington

    itd have been nice for wilder to fighter a bigger name but its not bad for a 4 week replacement

    I hope wilder has a big fight next mind
    as Eric says, it's not a bad replacement. Makes me laugh when people criticize these guys as if they're a piece of shit . Whereas if this fellah was a Brit, he'd be the second coming of Christ! look at his record and tell me which Brits have better names on their CV's.
    Fury before beating Wlad - NO . Had a World title shot.
    Chisora - NO. well nobody that he's actually beaten. Had a World title shot.
    Hughie Fury - NO. Being lined up for a World Title shot.
    Dillian Whyte - NO. Being touted for a World title shot.
    so before people say "He can't fight" or "He's an ex-tiddlywinks player", think about how you see the above names.
    18-(12 KO)-0-1 is great....HE'S 34 FUCKING YEARS OLD!

    That tells me if this guy was going to be somebody he would have done it by now.
    I'm not saying he's gonna do anything. I'm not even saying he's any good. All I'm saying is a.) it's not the worst late replacement and b.) if he was a Brit , he would be (over) rated more so.

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    Default Re: Deontay Wilder vs Gerald Washington Feb. 25

    Quote Originally Posted by Primo Carnera View Post
    I'm not saying he's gonna do anything. I'm not even saying he's any good. All I'm saying is a.) it's not the worst late replacement and b.) if he was a Brit , he would be (over) rated more so.
    True if he was British he'd have more support on here.

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    Default Re: Deontay Wilder vs Gerald Washington Feb. 25

    I think Wlad would KO The Atomic Windmill, BUT......
    I think AJ would smoke The Octopus @palmerq @mrbig1 @Batman @pacfan

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    Default Re: Deontay Wilder vs Gerald Washington Feb. 25

    Quote Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust View Post
    I think Wlad would KO The Atomic Windmill, BUT......
    I think AJ would smoke The Octopus @palmerq @mrbig1 @Batman @pacfan
    I agree the atomic windmill is not going to unify a lot of belts but I like him he does seem to have a good take anyone on attitude, looks like his managers have other ideas though... I would like to see wilder take on whoever the wbo champion may be after this fight, wilder v fury jr or parker would be pretty fun and a close contest.. Let the winner of joshua/ wladimir real (-fury) title fight deal with king kong.

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    Default Re: Deontay Wilder vs Gerald Washington Feb. 25

    Washington wouldn't be "the next coming" if a Brit. We have plenty of heavyweights/fighters with sexy records - Gary Cornish, Tom Dallas, Dave Allen, Larry OBoots etc - who are never seen as future world beaters, because the ultimate proof is seeing them fight not looking at records. The same goes for Washington - he's not bad but an obvious ex-American football player that came to boxing late.

    British fighters like AJ and Price were decorated amateurs before turning pro. Guys like Chisora and Fury made their name by steadily having success as they moved up in class - area, continental, commonwealth, British, European - before proving themselves at world level. Whyte was a nobody but hit the jackpot by beating AJ in the amateurs, then put his money where his mouth is and made a name for himself.

    On this forum only ross thinks Hughie Fury is the second coming.
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    Default Re: Deontay Wilder vs Gerald Washington Feb. 25

    Wilder has boxed awful opposition since becoming the titleholder (and before then too). So has Joshua.

    Tyson Fury, to be fair to him, at least beat Klitschko for the title.

    The lack of depth and quality in the heavyweights is mainly to blame for this. There are probably only 4 or 5 good heavyweights out there, and having multiple belts just exposes that shallowness.

    wishful thinking, but if there was only one champion, we may get some more exciting matchups going forward instead of this bum of the year roadshows that they have to do at the moment.
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    Default Re: Deontay Wilder vs Gerald Washington Feb. 25

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post
    Washington wouldn't be "the next coming" if a Brit. We have plenty of heavyweights/fighters with sexy records - Gary Cornish, Tom Dallas, Dave Allen, Larry OBoots etc - who are never seen as future world beaters, because the ultimate proof is seeing them fight not looking at records. The same goes for Washington - he's not bad but an obvious ex-American football player that came to boxing late.

    British fighters like AJ and Price were decorated amateurs before turning pro. Guys like Chisora and Fury made their name by steadily having success as they moved up in class - area, continental, commonwealth, British, European - before proving themselves at world level. Whyte was a nobody but hit the jackpot by beating AJ in the amateurs, then put his money where his mouth is and made a name for himself.

    On this forum only ross thinks Hughie Fury is the second coming.
    Wow. Respect your opinion but I'm amazed you can write that with such complete lack of self awareness. You just wrote out exactly the qualifying that someone(El Kabong? Primo?) said Brits would do but it seems like you think you're doing the opposite. Just WOW

    So Price is good? Chisora? Whyte? My god man. They aren't and you suggesting they earned their status is exactly what was said.If Washington was a Brit.... Clearly you would form some crazy qualification to suggest he was good. You proved it in your post.

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    Default Re: Deontay Wilder vs Gerald Washington Feb. 25

    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Swanson View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post
    Washington wouldn't be "the next coming" if a Brit. We have plenty of heavyweights/fighters with sexy records - Gary Cornish, Tom Dallas, Dave Allen, Larry OBoots etc - who are never seen as future world beaters, because the ultimate proof is seeing them fight not looking at records. The same goes for Washington - he's not bad but an obvious ex-American football player that came to boxing late.

    British fighters like AJ and Price were decorated amateurs before turning pro. Guys like Chisora and Fury made their name by steadily having success as they moved up in class - area, continental, commonwealth, British, European - before proving themselves at world level. Whyte was a nobody but hit the jackpot by beating AJ in the amateurs, then put his money where his mouth is and made a name for himself.

    On this forum only ross thinks Hughie Fury is the second coming.
    Wow. Respect your opinion but I'm amazed you can write that with such complete lack of self awareness. You just wrote out exactly the qualifying that someone(El Kabong? Primo?) said Brits would do but it seems like you think you're doing the opposite. Just WOW

    So Price is good? Chisora? Whyte? My god man. They aren't and you suggesting they earned their status is exactly what was said.If Washington was a Brit.... Clearly you would form some crazy qualification to suggest he was good. You proved it in your post.
    Nope... you didn't understand my post. I never made a judgement about whether or not the fighters I named were good or bad. That is purely subjective. But as you've brought the subject up - you don't believe Price, Chisora or Whyte are good? Compared with whom? I would say any professional that has a modicum of success is good, many a journeyman are good. Now comparing them with all-time greats (which you must be doing) they're not "good."

    My post was specifically about hype, following and reputation. I explained that Washington - far from being "the next best thing" - was just as likely to fall into the first category of fighters I listed as the third group (Fury, Chisora, Whyte). As he's not a decorated Olympic medalist he wouldn't have had the hype AJ and Price got (they were widely known amateurs).

    Hope I made it clear this time.
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    Default Re: Deontay Wilder vs Gerald Washington Feb. 25

    This will be on sky sports.
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    Default Re: Deontay Wilder vs Gerald Washington Feb. 25

    This looks a good sparko card on paper - Hurd-Harrison and Breazeale-Ugonoh look 50/50s. Quite fancy Harrison for the slight upset but know virtually nothing about Hurd apart from he looks massive at the weight.

    Ugonoh is the weirdest looking Pole ever - Polish/Nigerian, had a load of fights in New Zealand yet lives in Las Vegas. Err.. what? Breazeale is a 2/1 dog.
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    Default Re: Deontay Wilder vs Gerald Washington Feb. 25

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post
    This looks a good sparko card on paper - Hurd-Harrison and Breazeale-Ugonoh look 50/50s. Quite fancy Harrison for the slight upset but know virtually nothing about Hurd apart from he looks massive at the weight.

    Ugonoh is the weirdest looking Pole ever - Polish/Nigerian, had a load of fights in New Zealand yet lives in Las Vegas. Err.. what? Breazeale is a 2/1 dog.
    Living on an island that isn't that racially diverse I still double take when I see black people with Scottish or Irish accents on TV.

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    Default Re: Deontay Wilder vs Gerald Washington Feb. 25

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post
    This looks a good sparko card on paper - Hurd-Harrison and Breazeale-Ugonoh look 50/50s. Quite fancy Harrison for the slight upset but know virtually nothing about Hurd apart from he looks massive at the weight.

    Ugonoh is the weirdest looking Pole ever - Polish/Nigerian, had a load of fights in New Zealand yet lives in Las Vegas. Err.. what? Breazeale is a 2/1 dog.
    Looking forward to Hurd and Harrison in what is now a trinket grab. Hurd looks like a guy with all the tools but do wonder is he gets too lackadaisical in spots. Inside work and finishing are top notch, but Harrison is no Jo Jo Dan. Long road back for sharp boxer Harrison who must feel like he's looking in a mirror prior to being ko'd by Wilson. He was doing well there until late and Wilson can punch. He may look a weight class below when they touch up but very solid match up, like Hurd tko.

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