Scoring rounds even! 10-10? What's the problem? More rounds should be 10-10. Fact.

[TitoFan]

The round you describe would be 10-9 to the fighter that scored the knockdown.

Agreed. You can get too complicated with this .5 stuff. Still, forcing judges to score rounds 10-9 no matter what tends to skew fights in the wrong direction, IMO. Even rounds can help keep close fights close in the scoring, with 10-9 rounds being reserved for clear winners of the round. As far as the .5, it's another tool to fine tune the scoring. It could be made available, but with the right training and the right minds behind the scorecard. The main thing here is training. No system will work if the judges don't know how to score a fight.

[Master]

The round you describe would be 10-9 to the fighter that scored the knockdown.

Agreed. You can get too complicated with this .5 stuff. Still, forcing judges to score rounds 10-9 no matter what tends to skew fights in the wrong direction, IMO. Even rounds can help keep close fights close in the scoring, with 10-9 rounds being reserved for clear winners of the round. As far as the .5, it's another tool to fine tune the scoring. It could be made available, but with the right training and the right minds behind the scorecard. The main thing here is training. No system will work if the judges don't know how to score a fight.

The round that emphasised that was Holyfield v Bert Cooper when Evander was smashing Bert around the ring and got knocked down and then when he got up carried on battering Cooper for the remainder of the round. I could have given that 10-10.

[Alpha]

Training is the trick. We've all seen cards that have left us scratching our heads. Until the judges are held accountable and made an example off things won't change.

[Fenster]

Am I being a proper thicko here but what's the difference between scoring a round 9-9/10-10? The overall outcome is still the same, no?

[Fenster]

Judges being held accountable is fair enough, but unless a judge is consistently scoring the opposite of their colleagues and/or the majority then you'll always get a rick here and there. Every fan moaning and groaning about judges/scoring seem to think they're an infallible perfect scorer. But if you sift through rd-by-rd threads, after the event, the fan scores are all over the shop/contradictory.

Every ex-boxer/trainer/ref/judge/spit bucketman working in TV obviously need lessons in scoring, as the "expert fans" slag the shit out of them every week.

[Alpha]

Judges being held accountable is fair enough, but unless a judge is consistently scoring the opposite of their colleagues and/or the majority then you'll always get a rick here and there. Every fan moaning and groaning about judges/scoring seem to think they're an infallible perfect scorer. But if you sift through rd-by-rd threads, after the event, the fan scores are all over the shop/contradictory.

Every ex-boxer/trainer/ref/judge/spit bucketman working in TV obviously need lessons in scoring, as the "expert fans" slag the shit out of them every week.

Spot on. Judges need to be monitored and if they are consistently handing in bad cards; well outside the general consensus then they should be stood down for awhile for further training.

[TitoFan]

There's been boo-coo threads of scoring in general. If we're going there, there's plenty of things that can/should be done or at least considered in an effort to fix it. If it wasn't a real problem, us fans wouldn't be bellyaching after just about every decision. Nothing should be discarded initially, as all ideas deserve some consideration.

For starters, I don't get the time it takes between the end of the fight and the announcing of the decision. Sometimes we get some sort of explanation which doesn't fly. Honestly, how hard can it be to collect three cards and add the totals to the totals of the previous 11 rounds. Delays in this process, only to announce an unpopular, controversial decision, just add fuel to the fire and raises speculations of fudging or some other nonsense.

We've talked about using 5 judges instead of 3. Now we're discussing .5 increments. They've tried announcing scores mid-fight (bad idea). Bottom line is there apparently is no authoritative body within boxing whose role is to fix these maddening problems once and for all. Yes boxing is tough to score... but it is hardly the only sport which relies on judges' appreciation. Considering the time and effort that fighters spend to get ready for a fight, it continues to be shameful to leave it up to sometimes inept, sometimes corrupt (sometimes both) judges, working with a system that could certainly be improved.

[Spicoli]

Judges being held accountable is fair enough, but unless a judge is consistently scoring the opposite of their colleagues and/or the majority then you'll always get a rick here and there. Every fan moaning and groaning about judges/scoring seem to think they're an infallible perfect scorer. But if you sift through rd-by-rd threads, after the event, the fan scores are all over the shop/contradictory.

Every ex-boxer/trainer/ref/judge/spit bucketman working in TV obviously need lessons in scoring, as the "expert fans" slag the shit out of them every week.

Mate do you have any idea how difficult it is to maintain infallible scoring from home while consuming adult beverages, eating chips, ignoring phone calls all while a loud barking dog runs around the room That my friend is focus! It takes years to master and should not be dismissed .

Yep really no difference between 9-9 or 10-10 other than one does reflect what may have actually happened in a round. I think when we have judges 'adding' points to follow a 10 point must system it can get convoluted and ripe for "mistakes" with some judges. Rules are rules though.