As @mikeeod said there are still those fighters that are very capable at fighting on the inside. It just seems we currently have more movers/ boxer-punchers around.
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As @mikeeod said there are still those fighters that are very capable at fighting on the inside. It just seems we currently have more movers/ boxer-punchers around.
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I never thought Tyson was an inside fighter. If you watch his fights, his 'best range' was always closer than the other guys 'best range' - possibly because he always had shorter arms than his opponent, and he favoured hooks and uppercuts more. However, he usually allowed himself to get tied up when up close. I can't really blame his opponents for this, but he took some criticism for this early on in his career, and commentators called him too passive inside.
I agree with people who said Ward is a strong and crafty infighter. He is also rough and dirty, which makes it even more effective in an era when people aren't experienced in dealing with it.
I suspect the amateur game does discourage people from learning how to do it, plus TV only wants to show knockouts that come from distance rather than someone being systematically broken down up close. Unfortunately, I also think that idiot judges aren't capable of recognising when someone is dominating inside so that fighter doesn't get credit.
Quite some time ago, a poster uploaded a video of Roberto Duran infighting. It came with a pretty masterful commentary which broke down what he was doing and how skilful and accomplished he was. I certainly learned something from that excellent video.
Can someone find it and repost it here, it's definitely worth a watch.
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There was always talk of a 'silent contract' between Mike Tyson and his opponent when they got close. His opponent was happy for the onslaught to stop temporarily, and Mike didnt want to work when anything closer than his optimum range. They mutually agreed that no one would do anything.
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This is probably the inside fighting video
Duran was amazing at fighting on the inside, his defense was great and that's always a key when fighting on the inside....if you're fighting on the inside and you don't pay attention to defense first then bad things will happen
Riddick Bowe was a good inside fighter for such a big man.
He could accomplish it in bursts, but he often got caught in no man's land and this is why his prime and his career was so short. Had he fought more like Lennox Lewis his career would have been more like Lennox's IMO. Trying to fight Holyfield on the inside was a horrible idea.
Bowe took a lot of shots he didn't need to given his size and reach.
Floyd is on of the best at being in the pocket using his elbows and shoulders to hide his head and body and he was incredibly skilled at taking not of the timing and rhythm of a fighter which helped him feel when to roll and counter or feint to open them up.
I think Floyd would be too smart to decide to fight Duran on the inside, he'd likely tie Duran up on the inside to frustrate him and box on his bicycle. Which let's face it, Floyd could do that all day long if he wanted to. I do think at lightweight Duran would have been too much for him, at Welterweight it would have been interesting...I think Ray Leonard got sucked into a psychological battle with Duran and Duran broke him down, that didn't happen in the rematch and that leads me to believe at 147 Floyd may have had a psychological edge.
But of course we all know Floyd, Floyd would have waited to fight Duran until after Hearns beat him or he would have just said "Hearns toyed with him, there's no reason for me to fight him"
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How does Floyd do on the inside and could he keep Duran off at Lightweight and Welter version that beat Leonard?
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Styles make fights, and this is a horrible match up for Floyd. If Castillo could give a prime Floyd hell, Duran beats him handily. Floyd was a great fighter, and there is a case for ranking Floyd over Duran historically. That being said, Duran, Henry Armstrong, Ray Leonard, Tommy Hearns, and Aaron Pryor are ALL wrong for Floyd. If Maidana and Ricky Hatton could make Floyd uncomfortable, Duran, Pryor, and Armstrong overwhelm him. If a past his best Oscar made Floyd struggle with his size/movement/jab, Leonard and Hearns dominate him. Floyd was masterful but he was human, and everyone has their "kryptonite", even Floyd.
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Agreed..!!
Not seen this before, Brilliant stuff and thanks for posting @sanatogen![]()
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I actually thought Holyfield was winning the fight against Bowe on the outside and when he started to mix it on the inside Evander started getting beat. Riddick's uppercuts were devastatingoing.
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