NASA Mission to search for life on Europa

[vidgil]

Hahahah!

[Gandalf]

I actually think it is a waste of money to carry out missions like this. It costs a fortune to do that and I think that would be money better spent on trying to improve conditions here on earth. Just as people are turning away from globalism, I think people should turn away from space. Until we have a decent system on this planet and we can protect our own citizens, then we have no business poncing around looking for water on moons. We have plenty of water here and we are poisoning it on a daily basis. We need to get our priorities straight.

[Master]

I actually think it is a waste of money to carry out missions like this. It costs a fortune to do that and I think that would be money better spent on trying to improve conditions here on earth. Just as people are turning away from globalism, I think people should turn away from space. Until we have a decent system on this planet and we can protect our own citizens, then we have no business poncing around looking for water on moons. We have plenty of water here and we are poisoning it on a daily basis. We need to get our priorities straight.

A lot of positive has come out of space exploration and as long as private money is financing it a lot of it then it is worth it.

[Gandalf]

I don't know, Master. I'm not sure we have discovered anything worth using here on earth. I am all for space exploration, but think we would be better off using the money to help people here and now. The world is in a horrible pickle and water on a moon just seems a bit of a silly distraction when dams are ready to burst after decades of infrastructure neglect. Seems all back to front to me.

[Master]

I don't know, Master. I'm not sure we have discovered anything worth using here on earth. I am all for space exploration, but think we would be better off using the money to help people here and now. The world is in a horrible pickle and water on a moon just seems a bit of a silly distraction when dams are ready to burst after decades of infrastructure neglect. Seems all back to front to me.

A lot of the technology is used in everyday products because of space exploration.

[Gandalf]

That's back to front. There is no reason why we cannot innovate and just have it be for the good of the people rather than have to send it to the moon first.

The computers used to send us to the moon ended up being used to create credit systems so fat lot of good that one did us.

Nope, I don't see the point. Space exploration is a luxury and if the poor are getting poorer then it is money misspent.

At the end of the day only the elite are getting access once the planet is decimated, so let's ground them all and have them be dragged out of their bunkers instead. It serves no purpose for the common man.

[Master]

Scientists searching for evidence of life beyond Earth have discovered organic material on Ceres, the dwarf planet located between Mars and Jupiter.

The carbon-based materials, similar to what may have been the building blocks for life on Earth, were discovered by NASA's Dawn space probe.

The exact molecular compounds in the organics cannot be identified, but they match tar-like minerals such as kerite or asphaltite.

"The discovery indicates that the starting material in the solar system contained the essential elements, or the building blocks, for life," said Dawn's lead scientist, Christopher Russell.

"Ceres may have been able to take this process only so far. Perhaps to move further along the path took a larger body with more complex structure and dynamics (like Earth)."

Ceres, a Texas-sized rock-and-ice world about 590 miles (950 km) in diameter, is the largest object in the asteroid belt and is located about three times farther from the sun than Earth.

Its composition is thought to reflect the material present in parts of the solar system when it was forming some 4.5 billion years ago.

The organic material was found near a 31-mile-wide (50km) crater in Ceres' northern hemisphere and experts say the location and type of organics mean they cannot have been deposited by a crashing asteroid or comet.

The dwarf planet now joins Mars and several ocean-bearing moons of Jupiter and Saturn, among others, as places of interest to scientists looking for life beyond Earth.

"This opens the possibility that primitive life could have developed on Ceres itself," said planetary scientist Michael Kuppers of the European Space Astronomy Centre.

But Mr Russell was less bold, saying: "I think these organic molecules are a long way from microbial life.

"However, this discovery tells us that we need to explore Ceres further."

NASA finds life's building blocks on dwarf planet