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    Default Re: The next stars in boxing

    Quote Originally Posted by OumaFan
    Kelly Pavlik? I don't know exactly what to think of him, needs to step up the opposition a little more.

    Sturm's not done but its gonna be hard to build up a big fanbase here if his fights are never on American TV.

    Ruiz's not done but he's so misunderstood

    Chad Dawson, Lacy if he can come back strong.

    Somsak Sithchatchawal Seriously, I'm a fan.

    Seriously, I'm trying to think of an up and coming heavyweight prospect and I'm just drawing a blank.
    I agree on the Pavlik hes IMO on the same boat as Williams in the sense that fans are already expecting huge things from them not realising that the have some road to cover still.

    Ruiz I'm drawing a blank on him...

    My boy 'Bad' Chad I remember whe I 1st posted on him Wackoff and other pepople were like 'Bad' Cha... Who?
    Like at him now, I always told him vs. Sturm would be a good fight. Hes moved up at Ligh Heavy. IMO a good move there isn't a HUGE star there and I think he can be it. I mean think Tarvers lost 3 out of 6 in his last fights, RJJ is winding down his career. Though I think it's a tougher division then Super. Midd. I think he has the good to succed. Zsolt and Adamek are also making a run at conquering that div.

    Have you seen who Somsak is fighting next? Your gonna love it.
    It should make for a really intersting fight.
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    Default Re: The next stars in boxing

    That is a good fight, Caballero's not gonna be easy for anybody to beat, talk about a physical freak, a 5'11 122 pounder. Ridiculous.

    That's gonna be a tough to find fight, even downloading it will probably be hard cause its in Thailand.

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    Default Re: The next stars in boxing

    Quote Originally Posted by OumaFan
    That is a good fight, Caballero's not gonna be easy for anybody to beat, talk about a physical freak, a 5'11 122 pounder. Ridiculous.

    That's gonna be a tough to find fight, even downloading it will probably be hard cause its in Thailand.
    Thats what everybody said about JMM vs. John, Valero vs. Mosquera and others but all it takes is El Gamo or Lords Gym about 1hr for US fights and about 1 day for Int'l. fights.























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    Default Re: The next stars in boxing

    I think Pacman is going to be a leading light in boxing as he is willing to fight anyone although maybe the wars will catch up to him?

    Valero has a bright future,but he needs to stop being so sloppy and needs to try to fight Stateside.

    Arce is a charismatci,funny dude and deseves the spotlight. Every fight is exciting,he needs more promotional time and he can be a star.

    Jermain Taylor- the way he is being marketed,the people he is fighting,he will probably be the next big mainstream star in my opinion.

    Cotto has the makings a true mainstream star like Tito but firstly I hope he does not let that get to his head and try to blast everyone a la Torres and second,he needs to fight a true star(Hatton,PBF etc)until he does that he will remain a huge fave with the Puerto Ricans/latinos.

    I would say Guzman but he's 30,I was so shocked when I heard that! He hasn't got long left so he NEEDS the big fights.

    PBF will be around for a while but if he does not get that Oscar fight,will he be the megastar he wants to be? Not sure.




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    http://www.manchestereveningnews.co....ike_tyson.html

    HE'S 6ft 6in, weighs 18 stone, punches like a steam hammer and moves like a middleweight ... and he is just 17 years old!

    Throw in the fact that the lad's name is Tyson Fury, he has male model looks and a gentle, shy manner, and you start to understand why normally inscrutable Wythenshawe trainer Steve Egan believes he has a future world heavyweight star on his hands.

    Of course, the attributes and size mean nothing if there is no fight in the lad. But Fury was born a fighter - he was seven weeks premature and `died' three times in the incubator.

    When his dad, former professional fighter "Gipsy" Johnny Fury, told the doctor he was to be named Tyson "after the greatest heavyweight who ever lived", the doctor could not suppress his smile. "He told my dad that it would not be a good name for me, because I would only be small," said Fury with a gigantic grin.

    Fury takes his first steps down the road to the 2008 Olympics in Beijing on Saturday, when he faces Anthony Simpson in the final of the ABA novices super-heavyweight novice championships.

    "I don't normally like to shout about my fighters, but this lad is something special," said Steve who, together with brother Sean, runs Egan's Boxing Academy. "He is huge and hits hard, but he moves beautifully. With the heavyweight scene the way it is, he could hit the top and stay there for 20 years.

    "He is confident without being arrogant, although he has had a T-shirt printed that reads `Tyson Fury - super-heavyweight gold medalist, Beijing'!"

    Fury, who lives in Styal, has turned down offers from rugby and basketball teams, and a modelling agency, to concentrate on his boxing.

    Ambitious

    The 2008 Olympics might sound ambitious for a teenager with just eight fights behind him, especially with Liverpudlian David Price, the 22-year-old national champion and Commonwealth Games gold medalist and veteran of 52 fights, standing between him and a place in the Great Britain team.

    But Fury said: "I feel as if I have had a hundred fights, because it just comes naturally to me.

    "I know that to get to Beijing I need to start doing big things in the next two years. Even if I beat Price in the ABAs next year, they would probably still send him because they have worked with him for years and he is their golden boy. So I will have to take him out twice, which means beating him and then giving him the chance to beat me in return."

    The future is already being mapped out. Next month, he will travel to Germany with a Manchester team for a 10-nation tournament, and he has lined up a clash with former ABA finalist Tom Dallas for October.

    "He is 6ft 7ins and Tyson will eat him," said Egan. "We have problems matching Tyson, as his name is getting known. When he'd had five fights and won them all, he represented North West Counties against the North East, and we were told the 19-year-old he was fighting had the same 5-0 record.

    "Tyson went in there, broke his nose and knocked him out in half-a-minute, even though the kid weighed 18st 10lbs.

    "It was only afterwards that we found out the kid had had 20 fights, had been a national boys' club champion and had boxed for England."

    Fury walked into Egan's Academy three years ago, and his size means it has been difficult to match him.

    So progress has had to be slow, although Tyson finds sparring in the shape of his 15-year-old brother Shane, who is 6ft 3ins and weighs 19st 12lbs!

    Tomorrow's final in Knottingley, for fighters with fewer than 10 bouts to their name, is a good starting point for Fury's Olympic dream. Fury and Simpson should have met in the semi-finals in Nottingham last weekend, but the two boxers in the other semi were both disqualified in a bad-tempered bout, leaving just the Wythenshawe lad and his opponent in the competition.
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    Default Re: The next stars in boxing

    Quote Originally Posted by El Gamo
    I think Pacman is going to be a leading light in boxing as he is willing to fight anyone although maybe the wars will catch up to him?

    Valero has a bright future,but he needs to stop being so sloppy and needs to try to fight Stateside.

    Arce is a charismatci,funny dude and deseves the spotlight. Every fight is exciting,he needs more promotional time and he can be a star.

    Jermain Taylor- the way he is being marketed,the people he is fighting,he will probably be the next big mainstream star in my opinion.

    Cotto has the makings a true mainstream star like Tito but firstly I hope he does not let that get to his head and try to blast everyone a la Torres and second,he needs to fight a true star(Hatton,PBF etc)until he does that he will remain a huge fave with the Puerto Ricans/latinos.

    I would say Guzman but he's 30,I was so shocked when I heard that! He hasn't got long left so he NEEDS the big fights.

    PBF will be around for a while but if he does not get that Oscar fight,will he be the megastar he wants to be? Not sure.



    Here's my thing with Pac, how long till his speed starts to fade? Cause when that happens he won't be the same fighter. Yes he's only 27 but he's an old 27 cause he started so young and has taken a pretty good bit of punches.

    Might be a while before Valero can fight in the U.S. but people are intrigued by him.

    Guzman may be 30 but I think he has a better style for longevity than Pac.

    Arce I really like, starting to get a bit impatient with him and his choice of opponents, but I still have faith that a big fight will be able to be made with him versus one of the other top guys. Just his size might keep him from becoming a big star, that's why he's got to make the big fights.

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    Hmmm,I never thought of Pacquiao like that,you're right,he has been in wars and they maybe catch up to him and when they do,he is in trouble!

    The thing with Guzman is,you're right,his style will allow him to be around for longer,but who will want to fight him? He's in a queue to fight Pacman,and no one else brings that kind of recognition. He doesn't seem to me to have star quality.

    Arce,you're right,he does need a big fight but I think even a fight with someone like Dacrhinyan,thinking about it,I don't think it'll make him a star because as you pointed out,it's the weight,which is a big shame considering how exciting he is!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Mattyhitman
    http://www.manchestereveningnews.co....ike_tyson.html

    HE'S 6ft 6in, weighs 18 stone, punches like a steam hammer and moves like a middleweight ... and he is just 17 years old!

    Throw in the fact that the lad's name is Tyson Fury, he has male model looks and a gentle, shy manner, and you start to understand why normally inscrutable Wythenshawe trainer Steve Egan believes he has a future world heavyweight star on his hands.

    Of course, the attributes and size mean nothing if there is no fight in the lad. But Fury was born a fighter - he was seven weeks premature and `died' three times in the incubator.

    When his dad, former professional fighter "Gipsy" Johnny Fury, told the doctor he was to be named Tyson "after the greatest heavyweight who ever lived", the doctor could not suppress his smile. "He told my dad that it would not be a good name for me, because I would only be small," said Fury with a gigantic grin.

    Fury takes his first steps down the road to the 2008 Olympics in Beijing on Saturday, when he faces Anthony Simpson in the final of the ABA novices super-heavyweight novice championships.

    "I don't normally like to shout about my fighters, but this lad is something special," said Steve who, together with brother Sean, runs Egan's Boxing Academy. "He is huge and hits hard, but he moves beautifully. With the heavyweight scene the way it is, he could hit the top and stay there for 20 years.

    "He is confident without being arrogant, although he has had a T-shirt printed that reads `Tyson Fury - super-heavyweight gold medalist, Beijing'!"

    Fury, who lives in Styal, has turned down offers from rugby and basketball teams, and a modelling agency, to concentrate on his boxing.

    Ambitious

    The 2008 Olympics might sound ambitious for a teenager with just eight fights behind him, especially with Liverpudlian David Price, the 22-year-old national champion and Commonwealth Games gold medalist and veteran of 52 fights, standing between him and a place in the Great Britain team.

    But Fury said: "I feel as if I have had a hundred fights, because it just comes naturally to me.

    "I know that to get to Beijing I need to start doing big things in the next two years. Even if I beat Price in the ABAs next year, they would probably still send him because they have worked with him for years and he is their golden boy. So I will have to take him out twice, which means beating him and then giving him the chance to beat me in return."

    The future is already being mapped out. Next month, he will travel to Germany with a Manchester team for a 10-nation tournament, and he has lined up a clash with former ABA finalist Tom Dallas for October.

    "He is 6ft 7ins and Tyson will eat him," said Egan. "We have problems matching Tyson, as his name is getting known. When he'd had five fights and won them all, he represented North West Counties against the North East, and we were told the 19-year-old he was fighting had the same 5-0 record.

    "Tyson went in there, broke his nose and knocked him out in half-a-minute, even though the kid weighed 18st 10lbs.

    "It was only afterwards that we found out the kid had had 20 fights, had been a national boys' club champion and had boxed for England."

    Fury walked into Egan's Academy three years ago, and his size means it has been difficult to match him.

    So progress has had to be slow, although Tyson finds sparring in the shape of his 15-year-old brother Shane, who is 6ft 3ins and weighs 19st 12lbs!

    Tomorrow's final in Knottingley, for fighters with fewer than 10 bouts to their name, is a good starting point for Fury's Olympic dream. Fury and Simpson should have met in the semi-finals in Nottingham last weekend, but the two boxers in the other semi were both disqualified in a bad-tempered bout, leaving just the Wythenshawe lad and his opponent in the competition.

    i have actually heard a little about this kid (very little) and i am going to be keeping a close eye on him while he climbs the ladder up to stardom
    hes got the name, the size, the ability, and the style (just like m. tyson, from what little ive heard) to be the next big thing (maybe the biggest?) to come from the uk in a very long while.
    i cant wait to see more of him

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    Default Re: The next stars in boxing

    Hey if he's a heavyweight prospect that can fight I'm all for him.

    Giving him a knickname would be just flat out unneccessary

    Only thing if he's gonna make it to the 2008 Olympics and then turn pro it will be a little while before he really starts to make his mark, but like I said if he can fight, and is actually exciting, then hopefully he'll turn out.

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    Default Re: The next stars in boxing

    Andy Lee - Manny Steward trained southpaw at 160

    Chazz Witherspoon - needs mopre power

    Eddie Chambers - needs to step it up

    Malik Scott - no power at all

    Rock Allen - seems no one talks about him lately...wonder what he's up to

    Demitrius Hopkins - B-Hop at 147

    JC Jr - it would be nice for him to do well


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    Default Re: The next stars in boxing

    amir khan maybe

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    Default Re: The next stars in boxing

    Some names already said who i agree with so wont say them again, but 2 i think will or CAN be good (time will tell are)

    John Murray - time will tell, first time i seen him was on the lacy - Reid undercard, john an english lad wa sin in the Us and done superb, holds the Junior WBC belt i believe and looks to be a great talent at lightweight - already technicaly looks very sound and at such a young age; maybe not a boxer who will gives us toe to toe amazing action,more of a lennox lewis bac to basics win style fighter.

    Jamie Moore former britsh light middle w8 champ (vacated after his win last night) - i was still very unsure about moore untill last night (sorry to the non brits who didn't see this fight it was a beut!) But moore really impressed me with his experience (lil drunk by the way) Mackiln came out from round 1 throing punches wanting to go to hell and back, moore coverd up picked his punches, let Mck tire and Ko'd him in the 10th, on the cards i had macklin winning the fight - BUT i believe moore knew exactly what he was doing. Will he ever be a winky right or a shane mosley at light middle? porlly not! but he is a strong puncher, has been down but to me from silly mistakes- has grown alot and cud go on with the class around to be a great light middle fighter...

    Time will tell on both - Jamie is looking to step up to europeen, and then hopefully world level at light middle, john is still young but looks sharp, the class difference from what they are fighting at now compared to world level is clearly alot different, but i think both have what it takes to make an impact; looking forward to seeing how they fair off

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