Gennady Golovkin v Daniel Jacobs - 18/3/17 MSG

**Spicoli** · 02-25-2017 02:46 PM

As cliché as it is I think Jacobs only has an early window here and it will close rapidly as the minutes tick away. His power is legitimate but he has massive holes when he closes..especially after hurting a guy..and I'm not sure he's improved to prevent the power boxing Pirog did on him. I mean Ishe Smith even had him seriously hurt. Love his story and very likable guy you cannot help but root for but he becomes unraveled very quickly when under heavy fire. With that though it would be very unwise for Golovkin to get cocky as he has recently, or bored, and do that very dumb thing of letting a guy unleash and invite punches. Jacobs will go out swinging and on his shield.

**J_Undisputed** · 03-01-2017 12:05 PM

Originally Posted by Spicoli

As cliché as it is I think Jacobs only has an early window here and it will close rapidly as the minutes tick away. His power is legitimate but he has massive holes when he closes..especially after hurting a guy..and I'm not sure he's improved to prevent the power boxing Pirog did on him. I mean Ishe Smith even had him seriously hurt. Love his story and very likable guy you cannot help but root for but he becomes unraveled very quickly when under heavy fire. With that though it would be very unwise for Golovkin to get cocky as he has recently, or bored, and do that very dumb thing of letting a guy unleash and invite punches. Jacobs will go out swinging and on his shield.

Its funny you should say that about Jacobs. Pirog, right before clobbered jacobs was able to lock him up by switching stances momentarily. Apparently its still there because it happened in the Mora fights too. Mora just never picked up on it. If an ortho crosses over momentarily within range on Jacobs. Its almost like Jacobs has a brain fart and goes deer in headlights against the rops. His first instinct it to try an jab but it starts low and leaves a lot of real estate open on the return.

I don't know if pirog saw it and worked it. But it wasn't a fluke. Mora's sneaky and just tries to switch up and veil punches but he showed that window of opportunity is still there and Jacobs doesn't or can't close it.

**Spicoli** · 03-01-2017 12:50 PM

Originally Posted by J_Undisputed

Originally Posted by Spicoli

As cliché as it is I think Jacobs only has an early window here and it will close rapidly as the minutes tick away. His power is legitimate but he has massive holes when he closes..especially after hurting a guy..and I'm not sure he's improved to prevent the power boxing Pirog did on him. I mean Ishe Smith even had him seriously hurt. Love his story and very likable guy you cannot help but root for but he becomes unraveled very quickly when under heavy fire. With that though it would be very unwise for Golovkin to get cocky as he has recently, or bored, and do that very dumb thing of letting a guy unleash and invite punches. Jacobs will go out swinging and on his shield.

Its funny you should say that about Jacobs. Pirog, right before clobbered jacobs was able to lock him up by switching stances momentarily. Apparently its still there because it happened in the Mora fights too. Mora just never picked up on it. If an ortho crosses over momentarily within range on Jacobs. Its almost like Jacobs has a brain fart and goes deer in headlights against the rops. His first instinct it to try an jab but it starts low and leaves a lot of real estate open on the return.

I don't know if pirog saw it and worked it. But it wasn't a fluke. Mora's sneaky and just tries to switch up and veil punches but he showed that window of opportunity is still there and Jacobs doesn't or can't close it.

Better stated than I could have bud. Yeh I just don't think Jacobs does two things at once well. He can get behind the quality stick and move around or his attack is all out when he thinks he has a guy hurt. When he's pressured he gets stuck and vulnerable. The Mora KD was pretty telling to me as there was no set up whatsoever, Jacobs crossed himself coming in with no thought of defense and Mora squared, sat down and loaded up on one wide left hook. He's not a guy who can make many mistakes with a real banger and mentally he becomes frayed.

**Alpha** · 03-01-2017 02:55 PM

Just spells disaster.

**J_Undisputed** · 03-01-2017 08:01 PM

I'm not even sure we'd be having this conversation if Quinlin didn't come in so cold and starstruck. (Kudos to Jacobs for being ready and mauling crazy legs though to seize the moment). Jacobs has a great story and maybe him playing the race card on whys hes not selling out arenas has soured me, but I'm rooting for GGG on this one. Something about Jacobs having like 3 trainers now (with hunter and ward now in on gameplan) and algieri hired as the nutritionist just makes it seem like Jacobs haggled so he would have enough money to feel like he could buy the win or at least tilt the ring in his favor feel cheap. That tells me he already thought he wasn't good enough to win as is. It may all come rushing back when he gets hit.

Also If I'm Abel Sanchez, I bottle some of Jacobs offense/"power" by putting a word in the refs ear during the prefight instructions about those punches to the back of the head and pushes that happened in the fray to mora and quinlin.

**Master** · 03-01-2017 11:57 PM

Originally Posted by J_Undisputed

I'm not even sure we'd be having this conversation if Quinlin didn't come in so cold and starstruck. (Kudos to Jacobs for being ready and mauling crazy legs though to seize the moment). Jacobs has a great story and maybe him playing the race card on whys hes not selling out arenas has soured me, but I'm rooting for GGG on this one. Something about Jacobs having like 3 trainers now (with hunter and ward now in on gameplan) and algieri hired as the nutritionist just makes it seem like Jacobs haggled so he would have enough money to feel like he could buy the win or at least tilt the ring in his favor feel cheap. That tells me he already thought he wasn't good enough to win as is. It may all come rushing back when he gets hit.

Also If I'm Abel Sanchez, I bottle some of Jacobs offense/"power" by putting a word in the refs ear during the prefight instructions about those punches to the back of the head and pushes that happened in the fray to mora and quinlin.

LOL did not realise about the race thing or getting in additional people which means he gets less money.

**smashup** · 03-02-2017 10:30 AM

This is from a few days ago - Serious, Serious power going into these punches and both hands too, the left looks harder than the right at times.
Love the way he turns his knuckles in to add more power.

**J_Undisputed** · 03-03-2017 06:22 AM

Originally Posted by Master

Originally Posted by J_Undisputed

I'm not even sure we'd be having this conversation if Quinlin didn't come in so cold and starstruck. (Kudos to Jacobs for being ready and mauling crazy legs though to seize the moment). Jacobs has a great story and maybe him playing the race card on whys hes not selling out arenas has soured me, but I'm rooting for GGG on this one. Something about Jacobs having like 3 trainers now (with hunter and ward now in on gameplan) and algieri hired as the nutritionist just makes it seem like Jacobs haggled so he would have enough money to feel like he could buy the win or at least tilt the ring in his favor feel cheap. That tells me he already thought he wasn't good enough to win as is. It may all come rushing back when he gets hit.

Also If I'm Abel Sanchez, I bottle some of Jacobs offense/"power" by putting a word in the refs ear during the prefight instructions about those punches to the back of the head and pushes that happened in the fray to mora and quinlin.

LOL did not realise about the race thing or getting in additional people which means he gets less money.

The race thing kinda left me a little shocked and disappointed because Jacobs never seemed like a guy that wanted take the low or easy road. Then it was like poor me, its so hard as black fighter to sell out arenas when you're not faking a persona like mayweather did... like the KO at the hands of Pirog, getting dropped by Mora or telling everyone he needed a year before he was ready when GGG offered him a shot at the brass ring... had nothing to do with it.

As for the money thing, I can't blame anyone for asking about a raise. At the same time, he thought about not taking the fight (his perceived destiny) unless he was paid more. Then after going back and forth and leveraging the stripping possibility against golovkin (which i didnt get seeing as GGG was fine with the mandatory 75/25 split and it was jacobs who was hemming and hawing) he finally gets more money for doing us the favor of him resuming his pursuit of his destiny/legacy whatever... but lets hire Virgil hunter as a second trainer and Algieri as a nutritionist.. which probably brought the money he clears back down the original figure. Oh as long as Andre ward is still chirping at golovkin from the semi retirement sidelines.. lets bring him into camp and have him show me how to beat golovkin... Whats next? Jacobs gonna fly in saunders for the price of a caravan to start the boo chants at the fight?