Who do you think won? GGG or Jacobs?

[Nameless]

GGG won. It's not a robbery or anything, just a very competitive fight and our perception has been "alterated" by the fact that many expected GGG to just smoke Jacobs out at some point because he used us to it. A very very competitive fight and I hope there will be a second bout at some point.

[denilson200]

I had Golovkin winning but not impressively. It was a close fight and Jacobs could'nt get any home cooking in his own state but Triple G still edged it. Even though he didn't win. Jacobs still felt like he got the moral victory just by surviving the full 12 rounds, putting on a respectable showing.

But when Danny had the chance to pressure the fight he opted to get on his bike and wait for GGG to bring the fight to him all night long.

And those judges saw THAT

The lack of will to go for the KO when he (Jacobs) had all the advantages. He was faster, much bigger. But he was never the aggressor.

You have to BEAT the champ.

Triple G has the ultimate poker face. He never looks like he’s been hurt. Nor does he lose his shape. So Triple G’s whole demeanour is that of man in control that’s why he’ll always be tough to beat in close contests.

And also one of THE great misinterpretations of boxing is that you cannot out-box someone on the front foot. Out-boxing seems to be something that can only be done on the back-foot. Golovkin’s controlled the fight on the front foot.

Danny's strategy was to survive and flurry.

But as I say GGG was not impressive, so is he a commie hype job ?

Well, the wheels on the GGG hype train are getting wobbly as phuk

One thing that has always bothered me about Golovkin's training is I never see him throwing quick combinations. Always power punches.

K2 was VERY wise keeping Ward away from GGG.

Backing straight up with no side to side movement and head-hunting too much. I don't think he can beat Canelo or Ward after what I saw last night.

If I was GGG then I would immediately retire after the big money fight against Canelo. Because there are younger guys out there like Jermall Charlo, Erikson Lubin who could give GGG serious trouble and time runs against Golovkin.

I think Abel Sanchez (GGG Trainer) looks silly now when he compared GGG to Sugar Ray Robinson and saying only Robinson and Hagler are above GGG at 160.

[Gandalf]

I rewatched it last night and I had it fairly even towards the end this time. Possibly the KD was the difference. Some close rounds though where it could have gone to either fighter really. Would like to see a rematch. GGG can't be satisfied with that and Jacobs will believe he can improve on it.

[Primo Carnera]

I just watched it and I thought Jacobs won it by 2 rounds. Considering GGG won a 10-8 round, that's pretty conclusive. But having said that, there are many ways to score a fight and I wouldn't say it was a robbery .
I think it's a lot of factors all adding up to what happened, GGG isn't getting any younger, he struggled to cope with a bigger, stronger guy, he didn't cut down the ring as well as he normally does and he looked a little ponderous.
The one good thing is that we now have a definitive idea of GGG's Level. He's no ATG, but he is a very respectable champion, who was maybe exposed a little.
Despite the fact that I think Oscar is a wanker, maybe he's timed this just right for his guy. I'm still not sure though.

[Beanz]

I just watched it and I thought Jacobs won it by 2 rounds. Considering GGG won a 10-8 round, that's pretty conclusive. But having said that, there are many ways to score a fight and I wouldn't say it was a robbery . I think it's a lot of factors all adding up to what happened, GGG isn't getting any younger, he struggled to cope with a bigger, stronger guy, he didn't cut down the ring as well as he normally does and he looked a little ponderous.The one good thing is that we now have a definitive idea of GGG's Level. He's no ATG, but he is a very respectable champion, who was maybe exposed a little.Despite the fact that I think Oscar is a wanker, maybe he's timed this just right for his guy. I'm still not sure though.

I don't think you can form a definitive idea of anyone's level from one fight. I also don't believe this idea that GGG was exposed. It's not as though all his former opponents were absolute nobodies. Give Jacobs some credit he gave Golovkin a proper fight and elevated his own standing in doing so. Can't see where you get his two round win from either without believing that not getting backed up and being battered from pillar to post wins him a round. You have to win a round be being more effective, stopping your opponent working effectively, and landing more, and Jacobs most certainly did not do that for 7 rounds IMO.

[Primo Carnera]

I just watched it and I thought Jacobs won it by 2 rounds. Considering GGG won a 10-8 round, that's pretty conclusive. But having said that, there are many ways to score a fight and I wouldn't say it was a robbery . I think it's a lot of factors all adding up to what happened, GGG isn't getting any younger, he struggled to cope with a bigger, stronger guy, he didn't cut down the ring as well as he normally does and he looked a little ponderous.The one good thing is that we now have a definitive idea of GGG's Level. He's no ATG, but he is a very respectable champion, who was maybe exposed a little.Despite the fact that I think Oscar is a wanker, maybe he's timed this just right for his guy. I'm still not sure though.

I don't think you can form a definitive idea of anyone's level from one fight. I also don't believe this idea that GGG was exposed. It's not as though all his former opponents were absolute nobodies. Give Jacobs some credit he gave Golovkin a proper fight and elevated his own standing in doing so. Can't see where you get his two round win from either without believing that not getting backed up and being battered from pillar to post wins him a round. You have to win a round be being more effective, stopping your opponent working effectively, and landing more, and Jacobs most certainly did not do that for 7 rounds IMO.

I think that in order to rate somebody, we have to ascertain their level. Because GGG has , let's be honest , wiped the floor with every other previous opponent he's faced , we can't work out where he's at . With this fight, because it was closely matched, whether one believes he won or not , we at least get an idea for the Level that GGG is currently at . Golovkin is nearly 35, so it's conceivable that he may have been better in previous years, but as it stands we know where he is.
nobody said all his opponents were nobodies, and I give Jacobs massive credit , to the extent that I feel he won the fight .
What I don't understand is you question about the credit I give him, but at the same time question that I felt he won the fight. For the record , it's fairly straightforward, I felt he won more rounds than GGG despite GGG winning a 10-8 round.
I don't think that's controversial, loads of people had it like that, and I did point out that I could see how other people saw it differently. that's the Beauty (and Beast) of Boxing I'm afraid.
and when I say he got exposed, I did say "a little". I just felt that in the past fights he closed down the ring far more effectively. This time , more than likely due to the weight difference to a certain degree , he didn't manage to do that.
you have to understand , and if you read up my historic posts about GGG, that I am no GGG Hater. I've always been a fan, and I still like the guy, no question. But I have to be honest, I felt he lost the fight. You clearly felt he won, that's fine.

[TitoFan]

I had Golovkin winning

Whoa. Who are you and what did you do to Denilson.
Whatever it was, thank you... and welcome to Saddo's.

The rest of your explanation was pretty good, too.

But as I say GGG was not impressive, so is he a commie hype job ?

Well, the wheels on the GGG hype train are getting wobbly as phuk

Oh wait... Denilson appears to be back. Rats!

I don't think he can beat Canelo or Ward

100 percent agree with one..... 1,000 percent DISagree with the other.
No way in hell GGG beats Ward.

[Hulk]

GGG won. It's not a robbery or anything, just a very competitive fight and our perception has been "alterated" by the fact that many expected GGG to just smoke Jacobs out at some point because he used us to it. A very very competitive fight and I hope there will be a second bout at some point.

Very well said. I don't see a rematch happening tho Jacobs deserves one.