Who do you think won? GGG or Jacobs?

[Primo Carnera]

I just watched it and I thought Jacobs won it by 2 rounds. Considering GGG won a 10-8 round, that's pretty conclusive. But having said that, there are many ways to score a fight and I wouldn't say it was a robbery .
I think it's a lot of factors all adding up to what happened, GGG isn't getting any younger, he struggled to cope with a bigger, stronger guy, he didn't cut down the ring as well as he normally does and he looked a little ponderous.
The one good thing is that we now have a definitive idea of GGG's Level. He's no ATG, but he is a very respectable champion, who was maybe exposed a little.
Despite the fact that I think Oscar is a wanker, maybe he's timed this just right for his guy. I'm still not sure though.

[Beanz]

I just watched it and I thought Jacobs won it by 2 rounds. Considering GGG won a 10-8 round, that's pretty conclusive. But having said that, there are many ways to score a fight and I wouldn't say it was a robbery . I think it's a lot of factors all adding up to what happened, GGG isn't getting any younger, he struggled to cope with a bigger, stronger guy, he didn't cut down the ring as well as he normally does and he looked a little ponderous.The one good thing is that we now have a definitive idea of GGG's Level. He's no ATG, but he is a very respectable champion, who was maybe exposed a little.Despite the fact that I think Oscar is a wanker, maybe he's timed this just right for his guy. I'm still not sure though.

I don't think you can form a definitive idea of anyone's level from one fight. I also don't believe this idea that GGG was exposed. It's not as though all his former opponents were absolute nobodies. Give Jacobs some credit he gave Golovkin a proper fight and elevated his own standing in doing so. Can't see where you get his two round win from either without believing that not getting backed up and being battered from pillar to post wins him a round. You have to win a round be being more effective, stopping your opponent working effectively, and landing more, and Jacobs most certainly did not do that for 7 rounds IMO.

[Primo Carnera]

I just watched it and I thought Jacobs won it by 2 rounds. Considering GGG won a 10-8 round, that's pretty conclusive. But having said that, there are many ways to score a fight and I wouldn't say it was a robbery . I think it's a lot of factors all adding up to what happened, GGG isn't getting any younger, he struggled to cope with a bigger, stronger guy, he didn't cut down the ring as well as he normally does and he looked a little ponderous.The one good thing is that we now have a definitive idea of GGG's Level. He's no ATG, but he is a very respectable champion, who was maybe exposed a little.Despite the fact that I think Oscar is a wanker, maybe he's timed this just right for his guy. I'm still not sure though.

I don't think you can form a definitive idea of anyone's level from one fight. I also don't believe this idea that GGG was exposed. It's not as though all his former opponents were absolute nobodies. Give Jacobs some credit he gave Golovkin a proper fight and elevated his own standing in doing so. Can't see where you get his two round win from either without believing that not getting backed up and being battered from pillar to post wins him a round. You have to win a round be being more effective, stopping your opponent working effectively, and landing more, and Jacobs most certainly did not do that for 7 rounds IMO.

I think that in order to rate somebody, we have to ascertain their level. Because GGG has , let's be honest , wiped the floor with every other previous opponent he's faced , we can't work out where he's at . With this fight, because it was closely matched, whether one believes he won or not , we at least get an idea for the Level that GGG is currently at . Golovkin is nearly 35, so it's conceivable that he may have been better in previous years, but as it stands we know where he is.
nobody said all his opponents were nobodies, and I give Jacobs massive credit , to the extent that I feel he won the fight .
What I don't understand is you question about the credit I give him, but at the same time question that I felt he won the fight. For the record , it's fairly straightforward, I felt he won more rounds than GGG despite GGG winning a 10-8 round.
I don't think that's controversial, loads of people had it like that, and I did point out that I could see how other people saw it differently. that's the Beauty (and Beast) of Boxing I'm afraid.
and when I say he got exposed, I did say "a little". I just felt that in the past fights he closed down the ring far more effectively. This time , more than likely due to the weight difference to a certain degree , he didn't manage to do that.
you have to understand , and if you read up my historic posts about GGG, that I am no GGG Hater. I've always been a fan, and I still like the guy, no question. But I have to be honest, I felt he lost the fight. You clearly felt he won, that's fine.