"P4P no.1!" Chocolatito-vs-Thai Bang Bang Merchant - (Golovkin-Jacobs undercard)

[Mr140]

No i'm far from becoming the new ross - I'm not blissfully unaware that i'm thick as shit.

All the division Gonzalez has been in does not even have 800 active fighters in it all between 500-700 fighters.

There's over 2000 fighters between strawweight and superfly (the divisions he's fought in). But even if a division has only 500 active fighters at least they have to train and make weight.

There's 1200 heavyweights. What percentage are genuinely skilled boxers/athletes? Loads of them are borderline obese, they have skill but the luxury of not having to train. So I would assume the overall quality of the smaller weights trumps the lack of quantity argument.

It makes sense that welterweight historically provides the best quality and quantity as it's the closest to the average size of all men from all over the world.

I disagree with you on the skill level just because there faster does not make them more skilled. Not to mention they do not have to worry about being ended in blink of a eye. I was not impressed by a guy going toe to toe with nobody that in his last few fights was going against fighters that where in there debut. If he is going life and death with unknown guy who was fight debut fighters that division makes heavyweight look stacked. I disagree with skill level not many men are that size and there no real money in the division to make people want to cut. Easy to try to say hw is unskilled but it harder to box someone who can end you in punch makes the fight look different.

I never said heavyweights lacked skill. Obviously a big man will never have the speed, stamina or punch output of a small man but makes up for it with power, longevity, wear and tear. Actual skills, boxing brain, heart, balls, dedication etc is the exact same whether you're 6'6, 240 or 5'3 115.

I was merely rebutting the notion that there's a lack of strength in depth at lighter weights.

Between the entire USA and Europe there are 50 registered flyweights. There are 110 in Japan alone, 141 in Mexico. Obviously the strength in depth is far, far greater depending on the region.

Just because you don't know who the fighters are, they don't get paid 7-figure purses, fight more regular and come from a different culture (non-title bouts in between championship fights were common in the old days of western boxing) doesn't mean they lack quality. Far from it, it's the opposite.

Do not think he is shit fighter or anything but top guy in the world is pretty big claim. Your right just because there less of them and the money not there does not mean there is no talent but it does not help. Do you feel this guy is beating better fighters then Ward Crawford, Kovalev even past it Pacman whooped Bradley ass not long ago . Pound for pound is all subjective I just do not feel he is most talented fighter in the world. Top 10 guy sure i can see that but better then some of talent at weight classes at 140-175 I am not in that line of thinking. The fight was great and all but that guy has some gaps in the defense that he could fight better off the back foot if he was losing exchanges.