Oscar rolling out the excuses already

[Fenster]

Deny it all you want, what Oscar said was perfectly reasonable, doesn't matter a jot what happened in the past.

If the fight against Billy Joe is so easy that they can agree to fight Canelo and be ready for the promotional tour, media commitments and training camp within days of facing Billy Joe then they don't even need to risk something going wrong.

[TitoFan]

Because the Canelo-JCC Jr. fight the month before has no risks of its own?
Seriously... do you buy it or do you just shovel it?

[Alpha]

If the Canelo fight can be guaranteed then GGG should forgo the Saunders fight. I heard that De La Hoya was considering a purse split now. Talk is cheap tho. Send the contract then Golovkin has something concrete to work with rather than just words.

[mikeeod]

GGG should fight Saunders. Canelo and Oscar play games and are unreliable. GGG is an easy fight to make, so it's pretty obvious that Oscar is just trying to delay as much as possible.

If Chavez Jr. Comes to fight and is in shape, I'm not so sure the BJS or any other fight will matter. Canelo isn't guaranteed a win in that fight, since Jr. will be the much larger man (something new for Canelo). I personally think Canelo is shit and a hype job, and that Charlo, Jacobs, GGG, Spence, and Brook all beat him out of the ring.

[Primo Carnera]

Oscar is a cunt! End of. Forget about GGG, how the fuck can he even talk about a fight for Canelo and GGG, his boy has got to beat JCC Jr. First. He's avoided it so many times , who the fuck does he think he is.
Let's say that Canelo and GGG Don't fight next, who is Canelo going to fight? He's run out of catch weight bullshit opponents. God forbid he has a meaningful fight for a title at a proper weight!
GGG should ignore BJS and Canelo. Either rematch Jacobs or go up to SMW and fight one of the top guys up there.

[Gandalf]

I don't care about a GGG fight anyway. I think it will be easy work for GGG, so it's not a meaningful fight. Canelo gets found out whenever he fights someone good at his weight (Floyd/Lara) and the rest of it is filler like Matthew Hatton, old men or outsized men. Canelo is a fraud and I have no idea why he is popular as he is boring with his fighting in little spurts. Chavez is a fraud too, but he is also a pretty heavy fraud. Hopefully he does a number and ends the talk once and for all.

[Spicoli]

He's just staking claim early and don't think it's so much about "Golovkin risking injury" as it is Golovkin with massive additional press on his own terms in build up . He should worry more about Chavez jr laying off the bong hits and actually showing up to win. I remember someone saying that a "cut heals one percent a day". Anyone know if that's anywhere accurate? What's the big difference between Canelo May fight and Golovkin June fight and risking a cut? It's clear Canelo and Oscar already dodged Golovkin and you have to call bullshit probable on any promoter already setting up sandbags in front of a blockbuster event. Golovkin should fight as soon as possible, he knows the risks.

[Ron Swanson]

I don't care about a GGG fight anyway. I think it will be easy work for GGG, so it's not a meaningful fight. Canelo gets found out whenever he fights someone good at his weight (Floyd/Lara) and the rest of it is filler like Matthew Hatton, old men or outsized men. Canelo is a fraud and I have no idea why he is popular as he is boring with his fighting in little spurts. Chavez is a fraud too, but he is also a pretty heavy fraud. Hopefully he does a number and ends the talk once and for all.

I agree, and I hate Canelo. But it's funny watching people say Oscar was wrong to offer GGG more than 7 times what he got for the Jacobs fight because it's lowballing. And now they flip and Oscar is wrong for offering a percentage. I hate Oscar more than anyone short of Bob Arum but come on, career high paydays are insults? GGG needs a percentage. Oscar says they will offer a percentage and that's an insult too? Absurd. And common boxing business practices are now not allowed too? People have lost their damn minds.

[Alpha]

I give credit to Canelo for fighting guys like Floyd, Lara, trout etc although he struggled he did get in the ring with these guys and no one can blame him for taking the best money fights. We would all do the same if given the same opportunity. But he should STFU with all the "We don't fuck around" bullsh*t. I can understand GGG not wanting to commit to the $15m flat fee until after both their bouts are complete. After the Canelo/ Chavez Jr fight should Alvarez emerge victorious then a serious offer and contract needs to be put up. Let GGG take on BJS. Big fights have been postponed before due to injuries so I'm sure it can happen here. Does Canelo really have to fight in September? Especially when a GGG fight could be on the line a month or 2 later due to a cut.

[Nameless]

Well, Oscar had only then to make an offer GGG can't refuse for september under the condition that he does postpone his fight against Billyboy later after the GGG-Canelo bout. It's not very complicated. If that doesn't happen, it's because Oscar is making excuses because he's afraid for the bread and butter of his company.

[Alpha]

Well, Oscar had only then to make an offer GGG can't refuse for september under the condition that he does postpone his fight against Billyboy later after the GGG-Canelo bout. It's not very complicated. If that doesn't happen, it's because Oscar is making excuses because he's afraid for the bread and butter of his company.

Yeah it's pretty simple really. You can't expect GGG to wait around on empty promises again. Send a signed contract.

[Gandalf]

There is no good reason why GGG cannot fight again before a Canelo fight before the year is out. They could easily schedule a fight for October/November time. GGG said he wants to stay busy, he already waited 7 months to fight Jacobs, and Canelo is the one who has always acted tough but run away each time. The spoiled brat can wait his turn for the beating he deserves.

[Nameless]

There is no good reason why GGG cannot fight again before a Canelo fight before the year is out. They could easily schedule a fight for October/November time. GGG said he wants to stay busy, he already waited 7 months to fight Jacobs, and Canelo is the one who has always acted tough but run away each time. The spoiled brat can wait his turn for the beating he deserves.

And like I have said, if Oscar is worried about an injury, he only has to make an offer the GGG clan can't turn off for september under the condition he doesn't fight in the meantime. You just don't ask a fighter not to fight and let him unsure as if the big fight he's looking or will happen or not.

[Fenster]

They could easily schedule a fight for October/November time.

Actually it's not as simple as that. There's only a certain number of dates available for venues and PPV TV slots. It's not a coincidence the big American PPVs are scheduled around Mexican holidays. Or why you don't see them right before or after Christmas or in the heart of the summer holidays or clashing with other major sporting events.

[TitoFan]

Oscar De La Hoya, doubting Gennady Golovkin's drawing power, will redo offer for Canelo fight - LA Times



Of COURSE! That was about the only excuse left for Team Canelo not to face GGG!!

Now DLH is going to "recraft" another deal with GGG, meaning he's found yet ANOTHER excuse to avoid Canelo having to fight him. Now it's because GGG is not enough of a draw. Seriously... does DLH believe he's dealing with a bunch of morons in the boxing public? Well... scratch that. Blind fans will believe whatever B.S. comes out of DLH's mouth.


So let's recap some of the excuses Team Canelo has used to avoid GGG.

First, the fight had to "marinate". The implication that it was too soon. You have to let the hype train run for awhile. Ok.

Then there was the weight factor. Sure... we'll fight GGG. Come down to 154 and we'll fight. Of course, after you kill yourself making the weight, we'll re-hydrate up to 180 and you'll be weakened.

Then it was the BJS fight. Never mind we're fighting Junior in May. You're fighting BJS in June and thus you're somehow disrespecting us.
Fight's off!!

Finally, it's that GGG isn't enough of a draw... and DLH will proceed to make some ridiculous offer to GGG just so blind fans can see that an offer was made. When GGG tells Team Canelo to go to hell... it'll be proof that Canelo wanted GGG, but it was GGG that didn't want to fight.



At this point, I don't care who it is. I'm just dying for any true middleweight to get Canelo in the ring, hopefully somewhere in the same weight neighborhood..... and proceed to beat the living shit out of him.