Oscar rolling out the excuses already

[Ron Swanson]

I don't care about a GGG fight anyway. I think it will be easy work for GGG, so it's not a meaningful fight. Canelo gets found out whenever he fights someone good at his weight (Floyd/Lara) and the rest of it is filler like Matthew Hatton, old men or outsized men. Canelo is a fraud and I have no idea why he is popular as he is boring with his fighting in little spurts. Chavez is a fraud too, but he is also a pretty heavy fraud. Hopefully he does a number and ends the talk once and for all.

I agree, and I hate Canelo. But it's funny watching people say Oscar was wrong to offer GGG more than 7 times what he got for the Jacobs fight because it's lowballing. And now they flip and Oscar is wrong for offering a percentage. I hate Oscar more than anyone short of Bob Arum but come on, career high paydays are insults? GGG needs a percentage. Oscar says they will offer a percentage and that's an insult too? Absurd. And common boxing business practices are now not allowed too? People have lost their damn minds.

[Alpha]

I give credit to Canelo for fighting guys like Floyd, Lara, trout etc although he struggled he did get in the ring with these guys and no one can blame him for taking the best money fights. We would all do the same if given the same opportunity. But he should STFU with all the "We don't fuck around" bullsh*t. I can understand GGG not wanting to commit to the $15m flat fee until after both their bouts are complete. After the Canelo/ Chavez Jr fight should Alvarez emerge victorious then a serious offer and contract needs to be put up. Let GGG take on BJS. Big fights have been postponed before due to injuries so I'm sure it can happen here. Does Canelo really have to fight in September? Especially when a GGG fight could be on the line a month or 2 later due to a cut.

[Fenster]

Jesus christ! The difference between Canelo-Chavez in May is that fight was signed, sealed and done in January. January! The Golovkin-Saunders fight doesn't have a time, date, venue, country, deal etc. Nada. Nothing. That's Oscar's whole point, he doesn't want them fucking about with that fight so close to a Canelo date. It's par for the course boxing, for gawds sake.

Now lets just try something for one second, I swear it doesn't hurt, it wont cost you anything, just a few seconds then you can revert to type. Right... take your angry feelings for Oscar and Canelo out of the equation - why do you want Golovkin to take a fight that you regard as a mismatch?

No-one gives Billy Joe a chance in hell so why care?

[Alpha]

I thought GGG wanted to fight at home at the expo in June. Fighting Saunders with another belt on the line would fit the bill nicely.

[Fenster]

I'm asking the fans/forum, mate. I know why Golovkin wants the Billy Joe fight, I want to know why fans are desperate to watch a fight they consider a mismatch?

Unless I've got it wrong of course, and everyone thinks Golovkin-Billy Joe is a 50-50-ish, terrific, dangerous matchup on a par with the possible Canelo contest.

[Alpha]

Most thought the Jacobs fight was a mis-match and look how that turned out. GGG has the chance to add another title. That has been his plan for awhile. As far as I know there it's no concrete deal for the Canelo fight on the table. Who's to say Golden Boy will keep their word for a September fight?

[Alpha]

I think secretly Golden Boy is hoping GGG fights Saunders as they already have Lemieux planned for September.

[Beanz]

I'm asking the fans/forum, mate. I know why Golovkin wants the Billy Joe fight, I want to know why fans are desperate to watch a fight they consider a mismatch?Unless I've got it wrong of course, and everyone thinks Golovkin-Billy Joe is a 50-50-ish, terrific, dangerous matchup on a par with the possible Canelo contest.

It has the potential to be a blinder. A homecoming in which GGG gets a chance to dot the i's and cross all the t's. If BJS is serious and focused, which I think he will be, he is fast and very gifted and will present new problems. Saunders biggest problem is lack of firepower but he can slip, feint and get in and out quicker and with more skill than anyone Golovkin has fought.

[J_Undisputed]

Some fans want to see GGG get all the belts like he stated he wanted too. When was the last time you had someone do that and actually bring honor to the way the fight game is portrayed and do something historic? Not just using as a platform to launch their asinine persona, exploit the weight draining game, create their own weight divisions, manipulate state athletic commissions and drug testing agencies, etc and then brag about how their per fight revenue is historic. I'd rather watch someone whos underpaid, aspire to be the best than watch someone else cheat their way to an overpaid "win"

Unless there's a second cinco de mayo in September we never heard about, the timing issue is BS. Golden Boy sees how the lack of staying busy affected GGG's performance when they f*cked him around the first time. So its in their best interests to have him sit idle for over half a year before he fights cañelo who will have had his interim bout at that point. Fighters get injured in training too.. so maybe GGG shouldn't do any of that either. All of a sudden, Oscar is a marketing genius when everyone knows Schaeffer is the one who ran Golden Boy. Just waiting for oscar to choke one day, Whether its on his foot going in or the sh*t coming out of his mouth, I don't care which....

[Master]

I'm asking the fans/forum, mate. I know why Golovkin wants the Billy Joe fight, I want to know why fans are desperate to watch a fight they consider a mismatch?

Unless I've got it wrong of course, and everyone thinks Golovkin-Billy Joe is a 50-50-ish, terrific, dangerous matchup on a par with the possible Canelo contest.

We get to see GGG stays busy in his homeland and gets paid not being ideal sitting waiting for the phone to ring from Oscar.

[TitoFan]

Let GGG take care of his own business, just like Canelo is taking care of his. Canelo thinks the Junior fight is a gimme (otherwise he wouldn't have gone up to his real weight to take it).... but..... "careful what you wish for". For the first time in, well..... ever.... I'll be rooting for Junior to take Canelo's head off.

Canelo's moves are carefully orchestrated, with DLH as the conductor.
GGG fights whomever, whenever, wherever.
I just want to see Ginger Pubes crushed... I don't really care by whom.

[Spicoli]

I'm asking the fans/forum, mate. I know why Golovkin wants the Billy Joe fight, I want to know why fans are desperate to watch a fight they consider a mismatch?

Unless I've got it wrong of course, and everyone thinks Golovkin-Billy Joe is a 50-50-ish, terrific, dangerous matchup on a par with the possible Canelo contest.

Really we're talking about two guys who recently fought welterweights. Strictly showcases with the conclusion pretty much known before the bell. I can't knock a guy for wanting to at least clean the division house of anyone considered a 160 title holder. It may very well be Golovkin bluffing up his 'options' as we all know Canelo has no intention of fighting the very best at 154 and is hoping Chavez comes in half baked.

[Fenster]

I don't know what the fuck you lot are waffling about.

All I said was... if they - Oscar and Tom Loeffler (GGG's promoter) - agree to a Canelo-GGG fight then taking a fight inbetween isn't right, regardless of how easy it's perceived to be, as there's always the chance of something going wrong. And unless you believe Billy Joe makes for a good, competitive match-up then why do you even care whether it takes place or not? You all complain about mismatches (rightly/understandably) yet want GGG to have a gimme just so he has four silly, shiny belts. Big deal.

Now none of that applies to @Beanz or anyone else that thinks Billy Joe is a good match for Golovkin. And considering Billy Joe is currently rated among the best middleweights in the world, then inturn it's a good fight to make.

I was never arguing that Golovkin/Tom Loeffler put their schedule on hold whilst Oscar decides whether or not they get the carrot. Of course not.