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I don't know what the fuck you lot are waffling about.

All I said was... if they - Oscar and Tom Loeffler (GGG's promoter) - agree to a Canelo-GGG fight then taking a fight inbetween isn't right, regardless of how easy it's perceived to be, as there's always the chance of something going wrong. And unless you believe Billy Joe makes for a good, competitive match-up then why do you even care whether it takes place or not? You all complain about mismatches (rightly/understandably) yet want GGG to have a gimme just so he has four silly, shiny belts. Big deal.

Now none of that applies to @Beanz or anyone else that thinks Billy Joe is a good match for Golovkin. And considering Billy Joe is currently rated among the best middleweights in the world, then inturn it's a good fight to make.

I was never arguing that Golovkin/Tom Loeffler put their schedule on hold whilst Oscar decides whether or not they get the carrot. Of course not.
I agree with what you're saying to a point and I can see it makes perfect sense. I think the issue is that many people on this forum AND Loeffler promotions don't trust or believe De La Hoya or a word he says.
Consequently GGG wants to stay busy and not put his life on hold waiting for GBP/Canelo.
And you're right in so much that they can't arrange a fight and GGG continue to have one in between. So that begs the question why the fuck is De La Hoya mentioning anything to do with a GGG Matchup when Canelo already has a fight lined up with Chavez Jr. ?
One thing I am going to throw out there, because "Boxing is a business", GBP Seem to think they have the upper hand when it comes to financial negotiations. I wonder if team GGG had ever looked at getting into bed with Sky/Matchroom to counter that?
To be fair Osacr is talking about it because he gets asked about it a milion times a day, he's just answering questions. He also said in that interview - in the article that no-one read apart from me - that the promotion for the Golovkin fight starts immediately after Chavez Jr.

Golovkin/Tom Loeffler have never had a problem with accepting they're the B-side against Canelo. They're on record with that, they know Canelo is by far the bigger star (after doing such poor PPV numbers they probably wish they took the flat $10 million now).

Even if Golovkin/Tom Loeffler wanted to cut Matchroom/Sky a piece of the pie - why would they? - it's not a big fight in the UK among non-hardcore/nerds. It's not PPV, it's a middle of the night fight for the UK, neither are big stars (Canelo has the Latino market which is non-existent in Britain).
Ok, so Oscar is asked about the fight. And he says promotion starts After the Chavez fight. But what if Canelo loses?
What was Floyd's stock answer whenever he was asked about Boxer X,Y or Z? "I'm not looking past this fight."
I wasn't talking about GGG/Loeffler cutting Matchroom a piece of the pie. I was talking about Matchroom taking Loeffler's slice.
I believe that GGG Could easily be marketed by Sky/Matchroom as the no.1 fighter on the planet, as the beast from the East, etc. The Brits would definitely buy it if it was sold to them.
It doesn't matter whether those statements are true or not, the Brits would buy it and be in awe of it.
Hey, they bought Bellew v Haye and Bellew v Cleverley. They are marketing masters! And I don't think it'll be too big a problem that he's not a Brit.
But you know what, I must be wrong otherwise they'd have put a pitch together by now!