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Did I say or even imply that my culture was perfect? No of course not, but the Last puritan of Plymouth is frothing at the mouth to attack my supposed protecting of my culture...being careful to not take a stance here or there, but just take himself out of the situation altogether and play referee.

Frothing at the mouth ? come on man if you are gong to bother even replying then you have to assume that I am not so angry all the time. I am not even remotely angry, why would I be?

I am anything but a puritan and of course in a thread in which I started to examine your assertion I am going to be careful not to show my hand or take a stance. Have you never played poker?

I am open to being persuaded but it looks like your argument is by far the weakest in the thread, and you just like me take a extraordinary long time to make a simple point.

Beanz, again the point is Islam gets MORE violent as you read it, The Bible gets LESS violent....Jesus isn't out raping pillaging and murdering the way Muhammad is. I'm sorry that you apparently do not fucking understand or comprehend that or the fucking relevance of that but it's #1 The truth and #2 Very troublesome when it comes to people practicing Islamic Fundamentalism vs Christian Fundamentalism.

So....are you saying that the Old Testament is not the word of God then? Or did he meet Oprah and have a makeover? Or are you dismissing the Old testament as stories and the accepting the new as fact? Or are you suggesting that I don't know anything about the Judaism, The Bible, Christians or Islam? Or are you just saying that any act of barbarity carried out by Christian fundamentalists is not the same as that carried out by Jewish or Muslim fundamentalists because Christianity despite being used for all kinds of horrendous things is fundamentally better than those others?

It is not surprising that you have once again resorted to misrepresentation in order to hide from ugly truths. This is how you operate. i am not angry about it and it is hardly surprising seeing as you have had this as your modus operandi from day one here.

so I post



400 years of Trans Atlantic Slave Trade that maimed, raped, killed, kidnapped, and enslaved 20 million Africans "heathens" to bring them to Christ

and you conveniently dismiss it with

Oh no the Trans Atlantic Slave trade!!!!! 400 years....OH NOES.

No acknowledgment that it involved millions in the name of Christianity. Your culture. No mention of maiming, raping and kidnapping in the name of your culture. Forced to work in cotton, sugar and tobacco fields on which your culture was built.

Also it is not true that I am "morally grandstanding" at all. You are the one insisting that your culture is better than the ones you raided and stole from so inexpertly. I am not suggesting that Judaism is better than Christianity, merely that virtually no modern Christians have even a simple understanding of the Hebrew faith on which not only their entire religion, but much of their legal, moral and other systems are based. I would argue that Christianity is an immature and far more violent oppressive culture than that of Jews who for much of their early existence were enslaved and so have always been less likely to enslave others.



Again another straw man argument you suggested that I was comparing the Salem Witch trials to genocide. Never happened you again are making it up



finally

Those events happened in the PAST

radical Militant Islam is an issue NOW


so exactly why did you fail to respond to any of the current examples I gave ?


The Lord's Resistance Army in Uganda that has maimed, raped, & killed up to 100,000 people according to the UN, during the past 15 years, which is far more destructive than ISIS, and they've done so to establish Biblical Law as a self-described Christian organization
—In Central Africa Republic Christian Militias have destroyed every single mosque and the UN reports that Muslims are facing ethnic cleansing, withreports that Christians are cannibalizing Muslims, literally


Is it because these people are not American? I always thought that the Christian Church was global? or could it be that you are just failing to acknowledge that these "self-described" Christians are no different to the "self described" Muslims who suggest acting like Barbarians is somehow an expression of their culture?