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Primo Carnera - your entire reply has NOTHING to do with the original question you posed or the discussion I entered. The question was - where does Khan sit P4P in relation with other British fighters, not whether or not Khan is crap, which is all you've offered. However, i'll entertain your replies...
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Primo Carnera
There's the Sound bite! You can't use the World champions he's beat to prove your point and then put "regardless of the quality or physical state they were in"
I haven't tried to prove a point, you've given me nothing to debate let alone prove. I made a statement based on fact. I qualified the statement precisely because the bare stat isn't definitive about a fighters quality/standing/abilty.
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Primo Carnera
Zab - WHO DOESN'T BEAT ZAB? ANYONE WHO IS ANYONE BEAT ZAB.UNINSPIRING.
Peterson - two divison titlist, current welterweight titlist . AND LOST
Garcia - two divison titlist, current top welter.AND LOST
Diaz - former titlist. WAY PAST HIS BEST,FIGHTING AT A CAREER HIGH WEIGHT AND STILL GAVE KHAN TROUBLE
Collazo - former titlist. WHO HADNT FOUGHT ANYONE OF NOTE FOR A COUPLE YEARS, NOR SINCE
Alexander - two division titlist. ON THE SLIDE NO LONGER AT THE TOP LEVEL,BULLIED AND RUINED BY PORTER.
Algieri - former titlist. HERE'S THE THIN AIR. SO HE WON A WORLD TITLE, LOOK WHAT MANNY DID TO HIM , ATG OR NOT. AND HE FUCKING STRUGGLED AGAINST HIM.
Canelo - AND WAS BRUTALLY KO'd JUST LIKE EVERYONE THOUGHT HE WOULD.
Khan is crap which inturn makes his competiton crap. However, your reasoning is not just hypocritical it's deeply flawed.
If Zab Judah is crap - easy to beat - then what makes Tyzyu, Cotto, Mayweather etc top fighters? He had lost against all-time greats, he was still a highly ranked world-class fighter when Khan beat him regardless of how crap you believe him to be.
You're quick to mention Diaz was fighting above his optimum weight yet completely ignore that Khan was at a natural weight disadvantage against Canelo, or that he drew with top ranked Shawn Porter right before losing to Khan.
Collazo pulled the upset by knocking out Victor Ortiz right before losing to Khan, after that he gave top ranked Keith Thurman a scare before pulling yet another upset by knocking out prospect Sammy Vasquez. You sure do set the bar high if these fights are "not of any note."
"Look what Manny did to Aligeri?" Manny is one of the greatest fighters that has ever lived. On one hand you're saying Khan is crap, on the other you're comparing his winning performances with an all-time great. Doesn't make sense.
Originally Posted by
Primo Carnera
p4p isn't about what you've done in the past, if it was Roy Jones Jr. Would still be in the top 10! It's about the here and now, and Khan has done fuck all recently to even be considered. In the past, obviously yes, but in a time where the UK Has double figures World champions, he's nowhere n
You asked what Khan has done in the past 7 years, I answered. You haven't even offered what Brits are higher P4P. So, if you want to get back to the original question that YOU asked, please list, with reasoning, who has better credentials than Khan? I am not interested in whether or not YOU think Khan is good or not, it goes without saying what you think. However, to make an unbiased comparison we have to know who we're judging Khan with. And Roy Jones is an awful example, he's no longer P4P because he's old, shot and hasn't fought at top level for a million years. Khan is still in his pomp, independently ranked among the best welterweights in the world (Ring Mag) and challenged one of the best fighters in the world in his very last fight.
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