Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post
@Primo Carnera

I don't think there's any evidence to suggest Khan is past his prime, let alone in the same boat as a 48-year-old that was considered past his prime over a decade ago, hasn't had a title shot in over a decade (four recognised alphabets) and hasn't been rated anywhere near the elite of his chosen division in over a decade.

Roy fought a 50-year-old bare knuckle gypo in his last fight, Khan fought a 25-year-old P4P ranked fighter. Chalk and cheese. Apples and oranges.

Right, lets get on to the list as you've finally offered something for me to semi-peruse/look at. Your reasoning is based on current form, so lets take the last two fights of each listed, you can't get more current than that. Happy?

Frampton - lost to Leo Santa Cruz, before that beat Cruz

DeGale - drew with Badou Jack, beat Porky Medina

Brook - lost to Golovkin, beat Bizier

Joshua - beat Molina and Brezeale

Selby - beat Andoni Gago and Eric Hunter

Khan - lost to Canelo, beat Chris Algieri

Of the six fighters two have faced top 10 rated P4P fighters - Brook and Khan.
Of the six fighters four have faced a top three ranked fighter in their respective division - Brook, Khan, Frampton and DeGale.
Of the six fighters four have faced a current/former "world" champion - Brook (1), Khan (2), Frampton (we'll count Cruz as 2) and DeGale (1).
Of the six fighters two have been the clear underdog going into the contest - Brook and Khan

Conclusion - Joshua and Selby's competition is extremely weak in comparison with the other four. They haven't faced an independently top 10 ranked competitor from their own division let alone a "world" champion or recognised P4P elite. However, they're the only fighters that remain unbeaten.

Brook and Khan have faced the single best fighters but both lost. However, both had good success, highlighting their world-class skills until their expected demise, Brook fared better than Khan against a far more dangerous, superior fighter. Frampton has had the toughest back-to-back competition, DeGale never lost to his biggest rival in the division which was bolstered by a win. Khan's win over Algieri is far more noteworthy than Brook's over Bizier, so even though I loathe to rank Khan in front of Kell - as I believe Kell would kill him - the data says I must.

1. Frampton
2. DeGale
3. Khan
4. Brook
5. AJ
6. Selby

Fact.
I'm not going to keep on, but what is it about "Lies, Damn Lies and statistics?" You can make stats work however you want to , but the fact remains that not only is Khan not in the top end of his division (whatever that is), he has no desire to try to prove he is. He's been mandatory for Garcia's old belt forever and never wanted it , he had the chance of a title fight with Brook and never wanted it. He fought Canelo in a Circus fight for money KNOWING he would lose, but it would still leave him with paydays to pursue. He's chased, Floyd, Manny and even MacGregor for fucks sake for the exact same reasons. A loss would still leave him another payday AND he'd still have another payday.
He's in no rush either.its been nearly a year since Canelo and absolutely no sign of who he's fighting next apart from Manny comedy show with the fake sheikh money!
These are not the actions of someone in his prime, these are the actions of someone who is looking to cash out, and surely somebody who knows as much about Boxing as you can see that, because nearly everybody else can. FACT!