Bellew is like an annoying itch you can't get rid of.

[BIG H]

There's no difference between Bellew overrating himself and you bods that hate him underrating him. Just because he's a delusional big mouth it doesn't take away from his achievements.

And he's right about Wilder, Haye would be the best name on his record, therefore he has every right to claim he's beat a better name than him.

His achievements aint shit!

[Fenster]

That depends on who you're comparing him with.

He's won the British, Commonwealth, European and "world" title. He's beat a bunch of independently world rated top 10 fighters, won three rematches and pulled off a bunch of upsets.

He's achieved more than many a better fighter.

[BIG H]

That depends on who you're comparing him with.

He's won the British, Commonwealth, European and "world" title. He's beat a bunch of independently world rated top 10 fighters, won three rematches and pulled off a bunch of upsets.

He's achieved more than many a better fighter.

As usual Sir, you make case that looks impressive on paper, but break it down and you know he's beaten nobody except a Cleverley who had no place at CW. Yeah on paper his achievements look pretty good.

[Fenster]

Dunno mate - He was big underdog against lights-out Makabu, has solid world level wins over Masternak and Chilemba, the dangerous Ovil McKenzie was robbed for a "world" title after Bellew beat him and he pulled the upset over Haye, regardless of the circumstances.

Again.. depends on who he's being compared with. I'm judging him solely on what he's done in boxing not his personality.

If he says "i'm an all-time great," it can be proved he's talking bollocks as he's not achieved that status. I think he's proved to be more than labeled toilet though. That's all i'm saying.

[Alpha]

Dunno mate - He was big underdog against lights-out Makabu, has solid world level wins over Masternak and Chilemba, the dangerous Ovil McKenzie was robbed for a "world" title after Bellew beat him and he pulled the upset over Haye, regardless of the circumstances.

Again.. depends on who he's being compared with. I'm judging him solely on what he's done in boxing not his personality.

If he says "i'm an all-time great," it can be proved he's talking bollocks as he's not achieved that status. I think he's proved to be more than labeled toilet though. That's all i'm saying.

I with @Fenster and @erics44 on this. Bellew is on a decent run and is over achieving if anything. The Haye win may have been a fluke with the injury but he still had to survive until it ended. I remember most picking Bellew to be blown out in a round or 2. Wilder probably sparks him but his technique is so awful he could get clipped.

[Master]

Dunno mate - He was big underdog against lights-out Makabu, has solid world level wins over Masternak and Chilemba, the dangerous Ovil McKenzie was robbed for a "world" title after Bellew beat him and he pulled the upset over Haye, regardless of the circumstances.

Again.. depends on who he's being compared with. I'm judging him solely on what he's done in boxing not his personality.

If he says "i'm an all-time great," it can be proved he's talking bollocks as he's not achieved that status. I think he's proved to be more than labeled toilet though. That's all i'm saying.

I with @Fenster and @erics44 on this. Bellew is on a decent run and is over achieving if anything. The Haye win may have been a fluke with the injury but he still had to survive until it ended. I remember most picking Bellew to be blown out in a round or 2. Wilder probably sparks him but his technique is so awful he could get clipped.

Did you see the size disparity between them. The fight would be comical.

[Alpha]

Watching Wilder fight is comical.

[Fenster]

Dunno mate - He was big underdog against lights-out Makabu, has solid world level wins over Masternak and Chilemba, the dangerous Ovil McKenzie was robbed for a "world" title after Bellew beat him and he pulled the upset over Haye, regardless of the circumstances.

Again.. depends on who he's being compared with. I'm judging him solely on what he's done in boxing not his personality.

If he says "i'm an all-time great," it can be proved he's talking bollocks as he's not achieved that status. I think he's proved to be more than labeled toilet though. That's all i'm saying.

I with @Fenster and @erics44 on this. Bellew is on a decent run and is over achieving if anything. The Haye win may have been a fluke with the injury but he still had to survive until it ended. I remember most picking Bellew to be blown out in a round or 2. Wilder probably sparks him but his technique is so awful he could get clipped.

It's just childish nonsense, they (I don't mean everyone that dislikes him, you can argue his form doesn't meet your standards etc) can't differentiate between their feelings for someone they don't like with the reality of what he's done in the ring.

If someone keeps proving you wrong it's time to accept you're wrong, if you can't you're forever destined to be an imbecile.