Bellew is like an annoying itch you can't get rid of.

[Alpha]

Dunno mate - He was big underdog against lights-out Makabu, has solid world level wins over Masternak and Chilemba, the dangerous Ovil McKenzie was robbed for a "world" title after Bellew beat him and he pulled the upset over Haye, regardless of the circumstances.

Again.. depends on who he's being compared with. I'm judging him solely on what he's done in boxing not his personality.

If he says "i'm an all-time great," it can be proved he's talking bollocks as he's not achieved that status. I think he's proved to be more than labeled toilet though. That's all i'm saying.

I with @Fenster and @erics44 on this. Bellew is on a decent run and is over achieving if anything. The Haye win may have been a fluke with the injury but he still had to survive until it ended. I remember most picking Bellew to be blown out in a round or 2. Wilder probably sparks him but his technique is so awful he could get clipped.

[Master]

Dunno mate - He was big underdog against lights-out Makabu, has solid world level wins over Masternak and Chilemba, the dangerous Ovil McKenzie was robbed for a "world" title after Bellew beat him and he pulled the upset over Haye, regardless of the circumstances.

Again.. depends on who he's being compared with. I'm judging him solely on what he's done in boxing not his personality.

If he says "i'm an all-time great," it can be proved he's talking bollocks as he's not achieved that status. I think he's proved to be more than labeled toilet though. That's all i'm saying.

I with @Fenster and @erics44 on this. Bellew is on a decent run and is over achieving if anything. The Haye win may have been a fluke with the injury but he still had to survive until it ended. I remember most picking Bellew to be blown out in a round or 2. Wilder probably sparks him but his technique is so awful he could get clipped.

Did you see the size disparity between them. The fight would be comical.

[Alpha]

Watching Wilder fight is comical.

[Master]

Watching Wilder fight is comical.

Hearing Bellew is even more comical.

[smashup]

I've done a complete U-Turn with Bellew, used to hate the guy and his annoying rants but the way he conducted himself after the Haye stoppage won me over.
You gotta give him props for putting himself where he currently is, he got the Haye fight and the big payday he dreamed of and can earn the Lions share in a rematch which is what he should do then retire.
He'll bag over £4 Million next time.

[Master]

I've done a complete U-Turn with Bellew, used to hate the guy and his annoying rants but the way he conducted himself after the Haye stoppage won me over.
You gotta give him props for putting himself where he currently is, he got the Haye fight and the big payday he dreamed of and can earn the Lions share in a rematch which is what he should do then retire.
He'll bag over £4 Million next time.

That is his only real option, the fights with Wilder, Fury and even Parker are mismatches.

[Fenster]

Dunno mate - He was big underdog against lights-out Makabu, has solid world level wins over Masternak and Chilemba, the dangerous Ovil McKenzie was robbed for a "world" title after Bellew beat him and he pulled the upset over Haye, regardless of the circumstances.

Again.. depends on who he's being compared with. I'm judging him solely on what he's done in boxing not his personality.

If he says "i'm an all-time great," it can be proved he's talking bollocks as he's not achieved that status. I think he's proved to be more than labeled toilet though. That's all i'm saying.

I with @Fenster and @erics44 on this. Bellew is on a decent run and is over achieving if anything. The Haye win may have been a fluke with the injury but he still had to survive until it ended. I remember most picking Bellew to be blown out in a round or 2. Wilder probably sparks him but his technique is so awful he could get clipped.

It's just childish nonsense, they (I don't mean everyone that dislikes him, you can argue his form doesn't meet your standards etc) can't differentiate between their feelings for someone they don't like with the reality of what he's done in the ring.

If someone keeps proving you wrong it's time to accept you're wrong, if you can't you're forever destined to be an imbecile.