Is Wladimir Klitschko a top ten ATG heavyweight?

[Master]

There are many reasons that he is not, but one of the biggest is that he wasn't the best HW in the world for most of his reign. Vitali was better but they obviously wouldn't fight each other. Just imagine an alternative reality where they fought and vitali KOd him. Would that change your opinion of his status?

People just assume Wlad would lose to Vitali.....what if Wlad outboxed Vitali? What would you say then?

Vitali wud beat wlad because he is capable of throwing a punch back at him

Yes because it is that easy and no one ever tried to do that in all the defences he had.

[BIG H]

It's hard to say how good he is/was, because his opposition was so poor. We don't know if he would've still reigned for 10 years even if his opposition was better, but you have to ask yourself this, is there anybody he has beaten, that there aren't at least 30 other HWs' in history that would also have beaten?

I think that even somebody like Tim Witherspoon would've beaten everybody that Wlad beat. It's hard to put somebody top 10 who really hasn't beaten anybody, but hard to keep him out based on his number of wins, time unbeaten, longevity etc. Personally I would not have him top 10.

Love the bloke though!!

[El Kabong]

There are many reasons that he is not, but one of the biggest is that he wasn't the best HW in the world for most of his reign. Vitali was better but they obviously wouldn't fight each other. Just imagine an alternative reality where they fought and vitali KOd him. Would that change your opinion of his status?

People just assume Wlad would lose to Vitali.....what if Wlad outboxed Vitali? What would you say then?

Vitali wud beat wlad because he is capable of throwing a punch back at him

Yes because it is that easy and no one ever tried to do that in all the defences he had.

It's just SOOOOO easy to beat Wladimir Klitschko that he lost 5 times in 69 bouts



So easy that @erics44 himself could do it right? Right @erics44

[erics44]

There are many reasons that he is not, but one of the biggest is that he wasn't the best HW in the world for most of his reign. Vitali was better but they obviously wouldn't fight each other. Just imagine an alternative reality where they fought and vitali KOd him. Would that change your opinion of his status?

People just assume Wlad would lose to Vitali.....what if Wlad outboxed Vitali? What would you say then?

Vitali wud beat wlad because he is capable of throwing a punch back at him

Yes because it is that easy and no one ever tried to do that in all the defences he had.

It was tough to throw a punch back because every time you try he grabs and holds tight, then leans

All you have to do is watch any one of his defences to see that

I honestly can't see how people can defend it, it's absolutely clear as day

[El Kabong]

It was tough to throw a punch back because every time you try he grabs and holds tight, then leans

All you have to do is watch any one of his defences to see that

I honestly can't see how people can defend it, it's absolutely clear as day

Mr. Referee, Mr. Referee!!!! He's not letting me hit him back


You're ridiculous

[erics44]

It was tough to throw a punch back because every time you try he grabs and holds tight, then leans

All you have to do is watch any one of his defences to see that

I honestly can't see how people can defend it, it's absolutely clear as day

Mr. Referee, Mr. Referee!!!! He's not letting me hit him back


You're ridiculous

youre ridiculous

[Master]

It was tough to throw a punch back because every time you try he grabs and holds tight, then leans

All you have to do is watch any one of his defences to see that

I honestly can't see how people can defend it, it's absolutely clear as day

Mr. Referee, Mr. Referee!!!! He's not letting me hit him back


You're ridiculous

youre ridiculous

Great comeback, must have taken you ages to think of that one.

[erics44]

It was tough to throw a punch back because every time you try he grabs and holds tight, then leans

All you have to do is watch any one of his defences to see that

I honestly can't see how people can defend it, it's absolutely clear as day

Mr. Referee, Mr. Referee!!!! He's not letting me hit him back


You're ridiculous

youre ridiculous

Great comeback, must have taken you ages to think of that one.

I know

I did think about it, and came up with all sorts of replies but I just felt that that was the best one

[El Kabong]

It was tough to throw a punch back because every time you try he grabs and holds tight, then leans

All you have to do is watch any one of his defences to see that

I honestly can't see how people can defend it, it's absolutely clear as day

Mr. Referee, Mr. Referee!!!! He's not letting me hit him back


You're ridiculous

youre ridiculous

Great comeback, must have taken you ages to think of that one.

I know

I did think about it, and came up with all sorts of replies but I just felt that that was the best one

Well bless your heart