Quote Originally Posted by Gandalf View Post
America has ruined the world. Ask Iraq, Libya, Yemen, and Afghanistan what they think. Ask the people bankrupt because they got cancer, ask the students in mountains of debt. Ask Korea which has now lost trade with China pursuing the new US bogey man of North Korea. The hubris, the arrogance of a deplorable group of the worlds populace. Half of them cannot even see their toes. Now ask Britain who is reeling from 40 years of neo liberalism. Count the US debt and marvel at the interest rates. Ruined itself too. Time for a new age.
Ask Iraqis how awesome Saddam was, ask Libyans how great Gaddhaffi was....I don't always support regime changes, in fact I think unless you're at war with someone and have beaten them into submission that's the ONLY time you should even attempt choosing a leader for a group of people and in that case it should only be a temporary thing in order for the defeated party to form a new government. But hey, I'm just 1 American citizen I don't decide the foreign policy of my government.

People with Cancer should get free treatment then? What about people with other deadly diseases? Should those be free as well? Where does that kind of thinking leave us? Nobody FORCES students to go to college and get in debt that is a CHOICE.

Quote Originally Posted by Gandalf View Post
81 regime changes since WW2 and you want to talk about BLM? A new age where people are treated with dignity and respect.
All bad? 100% of them the US was on the wrong side? Every single time?

Quote Originally Posted by Beanz View Post
It is quite obvious that Lyle and Brockton are arguing for a continuation and are both anti-change. They are explicitly expressing a belief in the continuation of the team America world police model as espoused by Bill Clinton, both Bush Sr and Jr, Obama and now in an unbroken line by Trump. This extends to their condescending attitude to Europe, Britain and all the other posters on the forum who refuse to drink their Kool aid.
Not in the slightest actually. I'd rather Trump do what he said he was going to do and put America first. Trump has so far done ok in terms of foreign interventions only getting stuck in when apparently chemical weapons were used in Syria and the reason he got stuck in there was because Barack Obama gave the "red line" statement on chemical weapons and Assad apparently called his bluff, Trump reacted with some cruise missiles because he wanted to make a point that what happened was unacceptable and to me, that's ok, it's far better than boots on the ground. I'd rather America NOT be the "World Police" but honestly the rest of the Allied forces have turned into a bunch of whiny pussies. My condescending attitude isn't toward Europe it's toward smug ass lefties who assume Communism and Socialism are the greatest things ever when those things have been tried and they lead to things like millions of Ukrainians dying of starvation in the middle of peacetime with no drought or famine and ditto for millions of Chinese under Mao....but PLEASE try again, because this time it'll work


I want America to be America, other sovereign nations to have their boundaries and cultures and live and let live....but there's a little problem with that mentality the LEFT and Militant Islamism won't be happy until everything is as they want it to be. But some people don't see this, they're blind to it and they need to take the red pill very soon.