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    Banning unpaid internships is ridiculous. They are UNPAID. YOu are effectively saying someone cannot work for free in order to get some exposure and experience. There Miles...... companies should consider the possibility of work-from-home internship options. The biggest barriers to any unpaid internship are without a doubt (unless you live in the frikkin sticks) rent and transport costs, but many of an intern’s responsibilities could be done from home. Research, website-updating, proof-reading and report-writing need just the internet and a desk, and perhaps one single solitary freaking day at the office.
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    Quote Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust View Post
    Banning unpaid internships is ridiculous. They are UNPAID. YOu are effectively saying someone cannot work for free in order to get some exposure and experience. There Miles...... companies should consider the possibility of work-from-home internship options. The biggest barriers to any unpaid internship are without a doubt (unless you live in the frikkin sticks) rent and transport costs, but many of an intern’s responsibilities could be done from home. Research, website-updating, proof-reading and report-writing need just the internet and a desk, and perhaps one single solitary freaking day at the office.
    Back to the topic of slavery. Unpaid internship is effectively slavery. At least have the decency to pay them something for the time they are giving and throw in a free sandwich for lunch. Talk about a free lunch.

    You tell 'em Corbyn. Enough of this neo liberal lunacy. Time to double the wages for the toilet cleaner and half the wages for the executive. If they don't like it they can do what I did. Leave.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gandalf View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust View Post
    Banning unpaid internships is ridiculous. They are UNPAID. YOu are effectively saying someone cannot work for free in order to get some exposure and experience. There Miles...... companies should consider the possibility of work-from-home internship options. The biggest barriers to any unpaid internship are without a doubt (unless you live in the frikkin sticks) rent and transport costs, but many of an intern’s responsibilities could be done from home. Research, website-updating, proof-reading and report-writing need just the internet and a desk, and perhaps one single solitary freaking day at the office.
    Back to the topic of slavery. Unpaid internship is effectively slavery. At least have the decency to pay them something for the time they are giving and throw in a free sandwich for lunch. Talk about a free lunch.

    You tell 'em Corbyn. Enough of this neo liberal lunacy. Time to double the wages for the toilet cleaner and half the wages for the executive. If they don't like it they can do what I did. Leave.
    that is obvious, that people should be paid, but one of the issues raised in the OP was AGAINST unpaid internships NOT BCUZ PEOPLE SHOULD BE PAID (which we all agree they should be) but because it would benefit the priviledged: I disagree wiht THAT reason because guess what?.....Balancing a paid job and an unpaid internship is a life lesson. Suck it up. If you're going to take on an internship AND support yourself, then you're going to have to find a paying job, too. And balance them both. Does it suck? You betcha. But it's also a lesson that you're better off learning earlier than later. Hard work (often) pays off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust View Post
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    Banning unpaid internships is ridiculous. They are UNPAID. YOu are effectively saying someone cannot work for free in order to get some exposure and experience. There Miles...... companies should consider the possibility of work-from-home internship options. The biggest barriers to any unpaid internship are without a doubt (unless you live in the frikkin sticks) rent and transport costs, but many of an intern’s responsibilities could be done from home. Research, website-updating, proof-reading and report-writing need just the internet and a desk, and perhaps one single solitary freaking day at the office.
    Back to the topic of slavery. Unpaid internship is effectively slavery. At least have the decency to pay them something for the time they are giving and throw in a free sandwich for lunch. Talk about a free lunch.

    You tell 'em Corbyn. Enough of this neo liberal lunacy. Time to double the wages for the toilet cleaner and half the wages for the executive. If they don't like it they can do what I did. Leave.
    that is obvious, that people should be paid, but one of the issues raised in the OP was AGAINST unpaid internships NOT BCUZ PEOPLE SHOULD BE PAID (which we all agree they should be) but because it would benefit the priviledged: I disagree wiht THAT reason because guess what?.....Balancing a paid job and an unpaid internship is a life lesson. Suck it up. If you're going to take on an internship AND support yourself, then you're going to have to find a paying job, too. And balance them both. Does it suck? You betcha. But it's also a lesson that you're better off learning earlier than later. Hard work (often) pays off.
    Tell that to the millions either not being paid or not being paid enough to live on. Hard work often isn't enough. I remember working 12 hour days and then every year get told the pay rise was less than inflation because shareholders were more important, that we were not allowed to have a union, that our contract hours were kept to a minimum so they didn't have to pay much on vacation periods, that company pensions were being abolished. Those were some of the reasons I gave up on the UK and by all accounts it has become far more vicious. Zero hours contracts, less job security, harder to form unions, great inequality, just awful. Working hard more often than not does not pay off. If wages go down over a decade you end up working harder just to stay the same or more likely fall behind. Yet the elite have doubled their wealth in the same time. You seem to support this status quo, Trump certainly does in wanting to reduce taxes for the rich.

    Corbyn represents the first serious challenge to this nonsense in decades and people have every opportunity to get the wax out of their ears and see sense. The UK under May will be visionless, all they know how to do is tighten the screws. They will destroy the NHS, they are threatening the world with nuclear war, they kneel at the altar of finance. The people exist only to be extracted and used.

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    The local elections have not gone well for Labour. They are mostly the shire areas which are Tories but the UKIP votes have gone their way and Labour have lost some councils.

    We are screwed.
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    The local elections have not gone well for Labour. They are mostly the shire areas which are Tories but the UKIP votes have gone their way and Labour have lost some councils.

    We are screwed.
    Yes, I was trying to stay buoyant, but it has depressed me. I think I am realising that the strategy of destroying Corbyn through the media, the constant Labour leadership challenges and dividing the country through Brexit have been clever ones. It is all very obvious and calculated when you think about it. I was hoping people would see through it all and look within, but seemingly not. How can Labour be so far down in the polls? It doesn't make any sense. I see some in the alternative media are just saying 'Spoil you ballot paper'. Well how is that going to prove or do anything? I guess they buy into the Corbyn is a Commie oddball narrative too. Divide and conquer to the nth degree.

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    Mate, instead of blaming some media conspiracy, a secret inner cabal of traitors within the Labour Party (ironically, a Fifth Column on non-communists ) or some enormously complex plot to divide and conquer the 'people' by leaving Europe ...... can't you see that the labour vote is being utterly wiped out because people think they are a bunch of useless unelectable tossers!

    Diane Abbot appears to be unable to walk and chew at the same time, she seems pretty thick with little grasp of her own policies.

    Ive said for a while that Corbyn's rather infantile policies are likely to bankrupt the country. 4 new bank holidays .... they think the people are so stupid that that would be some sort of vote winner, for fucks sake!

    People should respect the electorate, just because people don't agree with your own views that doesn't de facto make every single one of them wrong, stupid or hoodwinked.

    I believe that a strong Opposition is critical in holding any government to account, and to provide checks and balances against ideological extremism ...... but it is completely Corbyns fault that the Tories are winning all those seats. It's his fault that the Labour Party are in a complete shambles, and it's his fault that it has been taken over by a smallish group of far left totalitarians who have likely made them unelectable for a generation.

    If he really was voted in by such an overwhelming margin to be the Leader of the party, where the hell are all those votes!

    An effectively One Party country is never a good thing, it's Labour and Corbyn's fault that we seem to be going that way. I'm not a labour supporter any more, but I'm genuinely angry with them for their clueless incompetence.
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    Quote Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust View Post
    Banning unpaid internships is ridiculous. They are UNPAID. YOu are effectively saying someone cannot work for free in order to get some exposure and experience. There Miles...... companies should consider the possibility of work-from-home internship options. The biggest barriers to any unpaid internship are without a doubt (unless you live in the frikkin sticks) rent and transport costs, but many of an intern’s responsibilities could be done from home. Research, website-updating, proof-reading and report-writing need just the internet and a desk, and perhaps one single solitary freaking day at the office.
    Back to the topic of slavery. Unpaid internship is effectively slavery. At least have the decency to pay them something for the time they are giving and throw in a free sandwich for lunch. Talk about a free lunch.

    You tell 'em Corbyn. Enough of this neo liberal lunacy. Time to double the wages for the toilet cleaner and half the wages for the executive. If they don't like it they can do what I did. Leave.
    that is obvious, that people should be paid, but one of the issues raised in the OP was AGAINST unpaid internships NOT BCUZ PEOPLE SHOULD BE PAID (which we all agree they should be) but because it would benefit the priviledged: I disagree wiht THAT reason because guess what?.....Balancing a paid job and an unpaid internship is a life lesson. Suck it up. If you're going to take on an internship AND support yourself, then you're going to have to find a paying job, too. And balance them both. Does it suck? You betcha. But it's also a lesson that you're better off learning earlier than later. Hard work (often) pays off.
    The trouble with internships is that they unfairly favour the rich and privileged. You seem eager despite not being rich yourself to want to carry on the entrenchment of this defunct value system and are mixing it up with aspiration and personall advancement. It is very easy to be an intern at Daddies firm when he gives you an allowance and a range rover and a flat in Mayfair. It is another mater entirely when you have to pay your own rent, have no living parents and have to rely on public transport. You know this but choose to ignore it in order to side with people who would willingly read on you like something distasteful on the pavement. Trump is not your friend and countries should not be run like companies with nepotism at the top.
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