Golovkin-Canelo OFFICIAL!!!- Sept 16th

[Master]

I'm going to give credit to Canelo for taking the fight. Some say it's late but in reality the fight is happening within 2 years of Alvarez making his middleweight debut. To be fair Canelo has never technically weighed over 155 pounds until the Chavez fight either. The fact that the fight is happening now gives him a pass in my book. (But I will wait until the bell rings). I'm not sure if Canelo can put the blue print Jacobs set to practice but I'm sure he will come into the fight at his very best.

You are too forgiving.

If Oscar and Canelo could have got away with not figting for a couple of more fights they would have tried. They were forced to take this fight as the excuses were getting very thin that even Canelo's own mum would have given him a slap.

[X]

Finally!

As a boxing fan, this is the biggest fight since Mayweather v Pacquiaio (yes, including the Joshua v Klitschko bout which was probably more of a crossover event)

Looks like people here have GGG as the favourite, and probably rightly so.

I really respect Canelo though. Notwithstanding whatever people think about his backers and team, the guy is a proper fighter. Turning pro at 15, over 50 fights under his belt already and he is only 26. He should be in the middle of his absolute prime right now.

Good engine, solid hitter, decent defence, good technique and a dependable chin. I've never seen him seriously hurt or in trouble. A quality elite operator. If there is a weakness, it's probably his slightly lumbering footwork (which Mayweather exploited beautifully).

The Jacobs fight may have shows some cracks in GGGs armoury, or the effects of age. He has been boxing for over 25 years now, don't forget.

Forget all the talk about weight, both these guys are around the same size and I won't be surprised if Canelo is heavier on the night of the fight.

If Golovkin superior footwork allows him to control the centre of the ring, and the pace of the fight, then I think it's going to be his night. However, if Alvarez doesn't get bullied, I can conceivably see him boxing on the back foot for a few rounds before standing in the pocket and firing back counters like Jacobs did. That certainly made GGG look mortal!

[Primo Carnera]

Finally!

As a boxing fan, this is the biggest fight since Mayweather v Pacquiaio (yes, including the Joshua v Klitschko bout which was probably more of a crossover event)

Looks like people here have GGG as the favourite, and probably rightly so.

I really respect Canelo though. Notwithstanding whatever people think about his backers and team, the guy is a proper fighter. Turning pro at 15, over 50 fights under his belt already and he is only 26. He should be in the middle of his absolute prime right now.

Good engine, solid hitter, decent defence, good technique and a dependable chin. I've never seen him seriously hurt or in trouble. A quality elite operator. If there is a weakness, it's probably his slightly lumbering footwork (which Mayweather exploited beautifully).

The Jacobs fight may have shows some cracks in GGGs armoury, or the effects of age. He has been boxing for over 25 years now, don't forget.

Forget all the talk about weight, both these guys are around the same size and I won't be surprised if Canelo is heavier on the night of the fight.

If Golovkin superior footwork allows him to control the centre of the ring, and the pace of the fight, then I think it's going to be his night. However, if Alvarez doesn't get bullied, I can conceivably see him boxing on the back foot for a few rounds before standing in the pocket and firing back counters like Jacobs did. That certainly made GGG look mortal!

From a money and hype point of view this is probably the biggest fight since Floyd & Manny. But from a Boxing point of view Ward/Kovalev was bigger surely?

[Alpha]

I'm going to give credit to Canelo for taking the fight. Some say it's late but in reality the fight is happening within 2 years of Alvarez making his middleweight debut. To be fair Canelo has never technically weighed over 155 pounds until the Chavez fight either. The fact that the fight is happening now gives him a pass in my book. (But I will wait until the bell rings). I'm not sure if Canelo can put the blue print Jacobs set to practice but I'm sure he will come into the fight at his very best.

You are too forgiving.

If Oscar and Canelo could have got away with not figting for a couple of more fights they would have tried. They were forced to take this fight as the excuses were getting very thin that even Canelo's own mum would have given him a slap.

Hey it could have gone the way that many others have and never eventuated at all.

[TitoFan]

I'm going to give credit to Canelo for taking the fight. Some say it's late but in reality the fight is happening within 2 years of Alvarez making his middleweight debut. To be fair Canelo has never technically weighed over 155 pounds until the Chavez fight either. The fact that the fight is happening now gives him a pass in my book. (But I will wait until the bell rings). I'm not sure if Canelo can put the blue print Jacobs set to practice but I'm sure he will come into the fight at his very best.

You are too forgiving.

If Oscar and Canelo could have got away with not figting for a couple of more fights they would have tried. They were forced to take this fight as the excuses were getting very thin that even Canelo's own mum would have given him a slap.

Hey it could have gone the way that many others have and never eventuated at all.

Yes it could have... but at what cost to Canelo's image? They say excuses are like doors. Once a door is closed on you, you have to look for another one. The first door was the marinating one. That's closed. Then it was the weight excuse. Canelo could get away with it while fighting at the famous catchweights. But once he ventured to above 160 that door is now closed also. TBH, Canelo has been able to fight at or above 160 for quite some time.

We're not out of the woods yet, however. Now come the negotiations. Oscar is nothing if not shrewd. We all know you can avoid a fight by setting unreasonable demands (such as the split percentages). We'll see how Oscar treats GGG and if he's serious about making the fight. He's got to be careful to tread that line where he ensures GGG will not accept... while getting fans to see it as GGG's fault and not Oscar's.

[Kirkland Laing]

I think Canelo will win some rounds but Golovkin has that fantastic workrate and Canelo doesn't. Canelo has had an awful lot of easy fights against guys much smaller than he is and has never faced anybody as big as Golovkin is (other than walking punchbag Chavez) or who hits anywhere near as hard or who brings it for twelve rounds. But Canelo will definitely have his moments. I expect Golovkin to win and to try and keep it at range, I don't think he'll want to get into an inside war or take too many big bodyshots. If Golovkin only wins by a couple of rounds expect a really bad decision. Canelo has years ahead of him as a Vegas/PPV attraction. Golovkin doesn't. I can definitely see these two fighting next Cinco too.

[Alpha]

I'm going to give credit to Canelo for taking the fight. Some say it's late but in reality the fight is happening within 2 years of Alvarez making his middleweight debut. To be fair Canelo has never technically weighed over 155 pounds until the Chavez fight either. The fact that the fight is happening now gives him a pass in my book. (But I will wait until the bell rings). I'm not sure if Canelo can put the blue print Jacobs set to practice but I'm sure he will come into the fight at his very best.

You are too forgiving.

If Oscar and Canelo could have got away with not figting for a couple of more fights they would have tried. They were forced to take this fight as the excuses were getting very thin that even Canelo's own mum would have given him a slap.

Hey it could have gone the way that many others have and never eventuated at all.

Yes it could have... but at what cost to Canelo's image? They say excuses are like doors. Once a door is closed on you, you have to look for another one. The first door was the marinating one. That's closed. Then it was the weight excuse. Canelo could get away with it while fighting at the famous catchweights. But once he ventured to above 160 that door is now closed also. TBH, Canelo has been able to fight at or above 160 for quite some time.

We're not out of the woods yet, however. Now come the negotiations. Oscar is nothing if not shrewd. We all know you can avoid a fight by setting unreasonable demands (such as the split percentages). We'll see how Oscar treats GGG and if he's serious about making the fight. He's got to be careful to tread that line where he ensures GGG will not accept... while getting fans to see it as GGG's fault and not Oscar's.

Not defending Canelo but he gets so much sh-t that you would think it was May-Pac esque, 5 years or so. He only won recognition as the linear middleweight champ in November 2015 from Cotto; 1 month before Saunders won a middleweight title. Jacobs a career middleweight won his version of the title in August 2014. Lemieux is the only recent belt holder to face GGG faster than Canelo.

[Master]

I'm going to give credit to Canelo for taking the fight. Some say it's late but in reality the fight is happening within 2 years of Alvarez making his middleweight debut. To be fair Canelo has never technically weighed over 155 pounds until the Chavez fight either. The fact that the fight is happening now gives him a pass in my book. (But I will wait until the bell rings). I'm not sure if Canelo can put the blue print Jacobs set to practice but I'm sure he will come into the fight at his very best.

You are too forgiving.

If Oscar and Canelo could have got away with not figting for a couple of more fights they would have tried. They were forced to take this fight as the excuses were getting very thin that even Canelo's own mum would have given him a slap.

Hey it could have gone the way that many others have and never eventuated at all.

Yes it could have... but at what cost to Canelo's image? They say excuses are like doors. Once a door is closed on you, you have to look for another one. The first door was the marinating one. That's closed. Then it was the weight excuse. Canelo could get away with it while fighting at the famous catchweights. But once he ventured to above 160 that door is now closed also. TBH, Canelo has been able to fight at or above 160 for quite some time.

We're not out of the woods yet, however. Now come the negotiations. Oscar is nothing if not shrewd. We all know you can avoid a fight by setting unreasonable demands (such as the split percentages). We'll see how Oscar treats GGG and if he's serious about making the fight. He's got to be careful to tread that line where he ensures GGG will not accept... while getting fans to see it as GGG's fault and not Oscar's.

Not defending Canelo but he gets so much sh-t that you would think it was May-Pac esque, 5 years or so. He only won recognition as the linear middleweight champ in November 2015 from Cotto; 1 month before Saunders won a middleweight title. Jacobs a career middleweight won his version of the title in August 2014. Lemieux is the only recent belt holder to face GGG faster than Canelo.

Floyd v Manny was past their sell by date this fight is near perfect in terms of timing.

Canelo has gone 'round the houses' to avoid GGG and that can not be denied no matter how you fluff it up.

[Alpha]

I'm going to give credit to Canelo for taking the fight. Some say it's late but in reality the fight is happening within 2 years of Alvarez making his middleweight debut. To be fair Canelo has never technically weighed over 155 pounds until the Chavez fight either. The fact that the fight is happening now gives him a pass in my book. (But I will wait until the bell rings). I'm not sure if Canelo can put the blue print Jacobs set to practice but I'm sure he will come into the fight at his very best.

You are too forgiving.

If Oscar and Canelo could have got away with not figting for a couple of more fights they would have tried. They were forced to take this fight as the excuses were getting very thin that even Canelo's own mum would have given him a slap.

Hey it could have gone the way that many others have and never eventuated at all.

Yes it could have... but at what cost to Canelo's image? They say excuses are like doors. Once a door is closed on you, you have to look for another one. The first door was the marinating one. That's closed. Then it was the weight excuse. Canelo could get away with it while fighting at the famous catchweights. But once he ventured to above 160 that door is now closed also. TBH, Canelo has been able to fight at or above 160 for quite some time.

We're not out of the woods yet, however. Now come the negotiations. Oscar is nothing if not shrewd. We all know you can avoid a fight by setting unreasonable demands (such as the split percentages). We'll see how Oscar treats GGG and if he's serious about making the fight. He's got to be careful to tread that line where he ensures GGG will not accept... while getting fans to see it as GGG's fault and not Oscar's.

Not defending Canelo but he gets so much sh-t that you would think it was May-Pac esque, 5 years or so. He only won recognition as the linear middleweight champ in November 2015 from Cotto; 1 month before Saunders won a middleweight title. Jacobs a career middleweight won his version of the title in August 2014. Lemieux is the only recent belt holder to face GGG faster than Canelo.

Floyd v Manny was past their sell by date this fight is near perfect in terms of timing.

Canelo has gone 'round the houses' to avoid GGG and that can not be denied no matter how you fluff it up.

So the fight is happening at the perfect time but I'm fluffing it? Canelo may have had other fights in the time since the Cotto fight but it is prize fighting. How much $$$ has he made on those fights? Saunders has fought once, how much has he made in that time? Canelo is doing something right. Add in he just vanquished a Mexican legends son so I'm guess almost all of Mexico is going to be behind him leading into this fight. That alone has to make the event that much bigger.

I'm not defending Canelo for dropping the WBC belt, I wish more fighters would do likewise. Unfortunately in this scenario it quashed a mandatory that was actually relevant and that people were interested in seeing. As it turns out the fight got made anyway without the WBC's help and apparently they will not be involved with the fight according to Alvarez.

Canelo may have taken a few fights in the interim but they made him a sh-tload of money and lets be honest that's the very reason GGG wants to fight him. Because Canelo is the star and a win will put GGG into that bracket. If that wasn't the case GGG would be re-matching Jacobs who gave him an ultra close fight and is more deserving than Canelo in my opinion. Also most see GGG as a clear favorite. What fight is harder do you think? I for one see Jacobs as a bigger threat than Alvarez.

[Master]

I agree the fight will not be as hard as Jacob's. I think if GGG did fight Jacobs again, he will not allow him to weigh in as high as he did and would easily beat him.

Canelo made money for as long as he could and I am glad he signed but it was not without a push.

[east end bob]

Oscar knows what he is doing. Making a fortune. Triple G is too clever, big and committed. As much as I admire Canelo, I can't see him winning.

[Master]

Oscar knows what he is doing. Making a fortune. Triple G is too clever, big and committed. As much as I admire Canelo, I can't see him winning.

Canelo avoided Golovkin for long enough and it was getting embarrassing for him to keep on making excuses as to why he did not immediately fight Triple G.

After Canelo loses he will carry on rebuilding his staged career until the next great fighter he meets.

[Alpha]

@powerpuncher he will win easily and I'll be here to gloat
Boxrec actually already has him as their number one P4P.

@TitoFan I'm pretty sure Chavez out weighed Canelo
He was also much taller and had a huge reach advantage
Speed beats size so Golovkin can weigh what he wants.

Boxrec seriously?

This says it all.

[Alpha]

Oscar fucking around with the weigh in time. I see Canelo missing the IBF 2nd weigh in for extra advantage.