UK general election

[Master]

Take central banking for instance. Even most people into politics have no understanding of the money supply. None. Zero. I was ignorant too until I really started to read about it a few years back. It's very important stuff, but we don't learn about it in school. In fact much of the relevant and important stuff seems to be missing from curricula. Steve Keen argues that even many people who study economics at university don't really understand it beyond a certain rudimentary level. I certainly don't make any pretence at understanding complex mathematical equations. The numbers of people who really understand things are quite small and I don't pretend to know at that level. Power control systems and their tools of coercion are quite complex. To start chipping away I think people just need to vote for Corbyn, but the real controllers of the universe are the financiers as most politicians eventually discover. The shadowy network that always runs things and never changes with the emergence of a new government. We saw it very glaringly in the case of Greece that completely ignored the will of the electorate. It's not that easy even if you do get your guys in.

It is a start.

[Gandalf]

Take central banking for instance. Even most people into politics have no understanding of the money supply. None. Zero. I was ignorant too until I really started to read about it a few years back. It's very important stuff, but we don't learn about it in school. In fact much of the relevant and important stuff seems to be missing from curricula. Steve Keen argues that even many people who study economics at university don't really understand it beyond a certain rudimentary level. I certainly don't make any pretence at understanding complex mathematical equations. The numbers of people who really understand things are quite small and I don't pretend to know at that level. Power control systems and their tools of coercion are quite complex. To start chipping away I think people just need to vote for Corbyn, but the real controllers of the universe are the financiers as most politicians eventually discover. The shadowy network that always runs things and never changes with the emergence of a new government. We saw it very glaringly in the case of Greece that completely ignored the will of the electorate. It's not that easy even if you do get your guys in.

It is a start.

Absolutely. It is a start. It's a long shot at Corbyn even getting in, but I fully envisage a full thronged attack if it does happen. Dissent within the party, economic havoc from Brexit, a new global crash, the PTB will not go away quietly. They do not want Jeremy Corbyn anywhere near Downing Street. You see it by constantly saying he is a threat to national security. He does strike a note of fear in them. They know he is not kidding about, but people need to see beyond all of it and to really start understanding the nature of what they are dealing with. Otherwise they will blow Corbyn out very quickly. They are not playing around. Already you have a lot of people mocking him saying he is an idiot. If things go wrong quickly, then will he have the support he needs? The thing is the numbers of people who control the world are few, but they yield all of the weapons that matter: the media, the wealth, the political influence. It's why Blair keeps on popping back with the full support of the media. A man that has been rewarded for his crimes against humanity and treason against country and still he remains free, in the party and able to sow seeds of discontent. You even have a bunch of dummies yearning for the Blairite glory days of tuition fees and war. It's bonkers. You cannot even get Labour supporters to support policies that the Labour party was invented for.

[Gandalf]

Awesome idea to stop fast food advertising being aimed at children too. It's right, it is not to be a killjoy, but to give children all the advantages they need. I remember at school eating a chicken burger, chips and cherry coke every lunchtime. I wasn't taught anything about nutrition and was allowed to eat what I wanted as a kid even though I did not understand nutrition. It's a form of child abuse really. I didn't know any better.

[Master]

That was another sensible announcement about junk food being banned and not advertised at children. At my previous work a head teacher at a poor preforming school came in and stopped all the junk food sold at the school from crisps to fizz drinks from the machines. Gradually the school starting performing and gaining a good reputation and he believed it was largely due to the diet.

Another recent issue is children not being fed nutritious meals and schools now have breakfast clubs. Food banks are now too common and overused.

Almost everything Teresa May says (and in some instances does not say) about tackling inequality is a recognition that their party policies have created an unjust society. They will continue to do that.

[Gandalf]

Nurses have to pay to park their cars at work? My god, that is so outrageous! I had no idea things are getting that bad there. One hospital charges 600 pounds a year. That's a considerable extra tax on someone on 22,000 pounds a year.

Look at Corbyn in this video. No editing, no angles, no catch phrases, just a really solid bloke who cares.

[Beanz]

"For the many not the few"

“This election isn’t about Brexit itself. That issue has been settled. The question now is what sort of Brexit we want – and what sort of country do we want Britain to be after Brexit?
"Labour wants a jobs-first Brexit, a Brexit that safeguards the future of Britain’s vital industries, a Brexit that paves the way to a genuinely fairer society and an upgraded economy.
“When Labour wins, the British people win. The nurse, the teacher, the small trader, the carer, the builder, the office worker win."

[Master]

Theresa May has vowed to end the "injustice" of rising energy bills by promising a cap on standard variable tariffs in the Tory election manifesto.

The prime minister said the market was "not working", with vulnerable people worst hit by "rip-off" bills.

Industry figures have criticised the plan, first announced last month, saying it could lead to higher prices.

Labour, which offered its own bill cap ahead of the 2015 election, accused the Tories of "desperate stuff".

And the SNP described the proposal as an "election bribe".

Under the Conservative proposal, industry watchdog Ofgem would set a ceiling on default standard variable tariffs. These rates are used by seven out of 10 households and are often criticised as bad deals by industry watchdogs.

Mrs May suggested the move could save about 17 million customers up to £100 a year.

According to Citizens Advice, about 800,000 of the poorest pensioners and 1.5 million low-income families with children are on standard variable tariffs.

These households are paying an average of £141 more a year for a dual fuel gas and electricity bill than if they were on the cheapest deal, it said.


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-2017-39852119

[Gandalf]

One thing I will say about life here and my bills is that it is cheap. Nationalisation works for key utilities. Rents are much cheaper too. Last year 650000 new homes were built too. If Corbyn gets in it can all happen. Internet comes through a company but it's cheap too and supersonic. It's like traveling through a worm hole. I like a lot of things out here and don't see why you can't have it too.

[Beanz]

The board is dominated by you pairs American bullshit and you don't even have the decency to let other people in the room talk. You are rude loudmouthed obnoxious simpletons,take it elsewhere there are plenty of threads for fucks sake.