UK general election

[Beanz]

"For the many not the few"

“This election isn’t about Brexit itself. That issue has been settled. The question now is what sort of Brexit we want – and what sort of country do we want Britain to be after Brexit?
"Labour wants a jobs-first Brexit, a Brexit that safeguards the future of Britain’s vital industries, a Brexit that paves the way to a genuinely fairer society and an upgraded economy.
“When Labour wins, the British people win. The nurse, the teacher, the small trader, the carer, the builder, the office worker win."

[Master]

Theresa May has vowed to end the "injustice" of rising energy bills by promising a cap on standard variable tariffs in the Tory election manifesto.

The prime minister said the market was "not working", with vulnerable people worst hit by "rip-off" bills.

Industry figures have criticised the plan, first announced last month, saying it could lead to higher prices.

Labour, which offered its own bill cap ahead of the 2015 election, accused the Tories of "desperate stuff".

And the SNP described the proposal as an "election bribe".

Under the Conservative proposal, industry watchdog Ofgem would set a ceiling on default standard variable tariffs. These rates are used by seven out of 10 households and are often criticised as bad deals by industry watchdogs.

Mrs May suggested the move could save about 17 million customers up to £100 a year.

According to Citizens Advice, about 800,000 of the poorest pensioners and 1.5 million low-income families with children are on standard variable tariffs.

These households are paying an average of £141 more a year for a dual fuel gas and electricity bill than if they were on the cheapest deal, it said.


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-2017-39852119

[Gandalf]

One thing I will say about life here and my bills is that it is cheap. Nationalisation works for key utilities. Rents are much cheaper too. Last year 650000 new homes were built too. If Corbyn gets in it can all happen. Internet comes through a company but it's cheap too and supersonic. It's like traveling through a worm hole. I like a lot of things out here and don't see why you can't have it too.

[Master]

Jeremy Corbyn has said wealthy elites are trying to "hijack" Brexit as he formally launched Labour's campaign.

Speaking in Manchester, the Labour leader promised a reckoning for "tax cheats, rip-off bosses and greedy bankers" if Labour wins the election.

But in a BBC interview, he declined to say whether he would categorically take Britain out of the EU if elected.

Asked by Laura Kuenssberg if he would go through with Brexit if there was a bad deal on the table, he wouldn't say.

The Labour leader earlier told activists that the question of whether the UK would leave the EU had been "settled" and the task now was to act in the national interest and not show "who can be toughest with Brussels".

Although the election was not about Brexit in itself, he said there was a clear difference between his approach and that of the Conservatives, who he said were prioritising narrow party interests.

In what the Conservatives dismissed as an "angry and divisive" speech, Mr Corbyn told activists that his mission was to transform Britain, saying "we have four weeks to take our wealth back and four weeks to show what kind of country we are".

Repeating his argument that the economy was "rigged" against ordinary people, he said a Labour government would take action against asset strippers, tax evaders and those who "ripped off workers and consumers".

"We have four weeks to ruin their party," he said.

Speaking afterwards to the BBC's political editor Laura Kuenssberg, he said that he was angry at levels of poverty and inequality in the country, which he believed were shared by the public.

"They are very angry. They see the growth of the super-rich and very wealthy corporations and they see their communities left behind. Their anger is palpable and I think we have to address that."

Mr Corbyn, who campaigned to remain in last year's referendum but subsequently voted to trigger the Brexit process, said the outcome of the 2016 vote was clear and the next government's job was to get a "good deal" on withdrawal.

But pressed on several occasions whether, as prime minister, he would allow Brexit irrespective of the kind of deal achieved, he declined to say.

"I don't know any more than you what is going to happen in the future but I do know that we are not approaching this from megaphone diplomacy. We are not approaching this from threats... our view is you have to talk to them, negotiate with them and recognise there is quite a lot of common interest."

If elected, he said his negotiating priorities would be guaranteeing tariff-free access to EU markets, ensuring the rights of EU nationals living in the UK and maintaining employment rights such as the working time directive.

"People know there's been a referendum and a decision was made a year ago," he said. "We have set out very clear terms for negotiations... we are negotiating a trade agreement with Europe and protection of the things we have gained from the EU."

In the run-up to Tuesday's speech, Mr Corbyn insisted he would stay on as Labour leader even if the party loses at the general election. He told BuzzFeed: "I was elected leader of this party and I'll stay leader of this party."

Although facing a challenge to win on 8 June, Mr Corbyn told supporters he was determined to show "things don't have to remain the way they are".

He promised decent homes for all, extra funding for schools and vowed to "draw a line" under privatisation in the health service, social care, energy market and the rail network.

Prime Minister Theresa May has attempted to portray the general election as being about Brexit, urging voters to strengthen her negotiating hand in talks set to begin next month.

Conservative chairman Patrick McLoughlin said Mr Corbyn was "too weak to stand up to the leaders of 27 EU countries".

"This angry, divisive and chaotic speech makes clear the choice at this election - strong and stable leadership with Theresa May, or uncosted, nonsensical policies from Jeremy Corbyn," he said.

"He didn't mention the deficit or controlling immigration - because he'd wreck our economy with higher taxes and more debt."

Lib Dem leader Tim Farron, who has promised a second referendum on any Brexit deal, said suggestions the UK's future in Europe was settled was "further proof" of Labour's "inability to stand up to the Tories on the most important issue facing our country".

The SNP said Labour's performance in council elections last week showed any talk of them forming the next government was "utter fantasy".

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-2017-39852719

[El Kabong]

He would say that wouldn't he?

[El Kabong]

Shorter: "Labour needs voters, voters are too racist for Labour"

[El Kabong]

The brilliant Christopher Hitchens who was anti-ALL-religion but there you have it....ahead of his time.

[Beanz]

The board is dominated by you pairs American bullshit and you don't even have the decency to let other people in the room talk. You are rude loudmouthed obnoxious simpletons,take it elsewhere there are plenty of threads for fucks sake.

[El Kabong]

UK GENERAL ELECTIONYou wanna talk about Hitchens or Islam go to the debate or culture thread

Because they aren't related at all ......you really are pathetic

Only in the mind of two American Imperialists.

Take some more of those precious refugees and tell me how amazing Sharia is

The board is dominated by you pairs American bullshit and you don't even have the decency to let other people in the room talk. You are rude loudmouthed obnoxious simpletons,take it elsewhere there are plenty of threads for fucks sake.

Who is stopping you from posting? It ain't me, I'm letting you be as big of a jackass as you want to be and you're doing yourself proud I am sure.

"Pairs" would mean multiples of 2, Pair singular if you're referring to brockton and myself, but hey, you know that, you're in education.....not that anyone else could tell

[Beanz]

UK GENERAL ELECTIONYou wanna talk about Hitchens or Islam go to the debate or culture thread

Because they aren't related at all ......you really are pathetic

Only in the mind of two American Imperialists.

Take some more of those precious refugees and tell me how amazing Sharia is

The board is dominated by you pairs American bullshit and you don't even have the decency to let other people in the room talk. You are rude loudmouthed obnoxious simpletons,take it elsewhere there are plenty of threads for fucks sake.

Who is stopping you from posting? It ain't me, I'm letting you be as big of a jackass as you want to be and you're doing yourself proud I am sure.

"Pairs" would mean multiples of 2, Pair singular if you're referring to brockton and myself, but hey, you know that, you're in education.....not that anyone else could tell

In England

within Britain

the phrase

"Will you pair shut the fuck up" would indicate you are trolling

It is the American Bullshit owned by you two, hence "you pair's bullshit"


If you had the decency to actually read anything I post you would know that i no longer work in Education, unlike your bigoted friend who loved to teach illegal immigrants and then lecture everyone else about letting them into their countries.

[El Kabong]

In England

within Britain

the phrase

"Will you pair shut the fuck up" would indicate you are trolling

It is the American Bullshit owned by you two, hence "you pair's bullshit"


If you had the decency to actually read anything I post you would know that i no longer work in Education, unlike your bigoted friend who loved to teach illegal immigrants and then lecture everyone else about letting them into their countries.

"Will you pair shut the fuck up" correct, good proper English

"The board is dominated by you pairs American bullshit and you don't even have the decency to let other people in the room talk." poor English. Now you could have said 'You pair, dominate the board with your American bullshit....' and that would be grammatically correct but the way you wrote it reminds me of Yakov Smirnoff.


Oh, you don't work in education anymore....how fortunate for the little ones. Continue on with your crap, I mean not that I have EVER fucking stopped you from posting (how could I?).






People pouring into England has changed that country, it's a fact, and you're not changing for the better either look at Luton, look at Rotherham, it's happening all over but you just want to turn a blind eye because otherwise you'd have to address what has happened to a once great and proud nation.

[El Kabong]

To appease you and ONLY to appease you Beanz....I'll not respond anymore to your posts. You may post, you may @ mention me, you may do anything you wish on this forum, I will not respond or retaliate.


Enjoy

[Beanz]

In England

within Britain

the phrase

"Will you pair shut the fuck up" would indicate you are trolling

It is the American Bullshit owned by you two, hence "you pair's bullshit"


If you had the decency to actually read anything I post you would know that i no longer work in Education, unlike your bigoted friend who loved to teach illegal immigrants and then lecture everyone else about letting them into their countries.

"Will you pair shut the fuck up" correct, good proper English

"The board is dominated by you pairs American bullshit and you don't even have the decency to let other people in the room talk." poor English. Now you could have said 'You pair, dominate the board with your American bullshit....' and that would be grammatically correct but the way you wrote it reminds me of Yakov Smirnoff.


Oh, you don't work in education anymore....how fortunate for the little ones. Continue on with your crap, I mean not that I have EVER fucking stopped you from posting (how could I?).






People pouring into England has changed that country, it's a fact, and you're not changing for the better either look at Luton, look at Rotherham, it's happening all over but you just want to turn a blind eye because otherwise you'd have to address what has happened to a once great and proud nation.

What a surprise you are now after telling France what to do telling England what to do .

First this is a BRITISH election


England and Britain are not interchangeable that is incredibly rude and patronising from somebody who is supposed to be part Scottish. There are plenty of Welsh posters here to, it's not a lot to ask its the starting point. Respect.


A once great and proud nation? so now you are the arbiter of Britain's greatness ? this is your American Imperialism speaking again. You are so incredibly arrogant. The worst thing thing this country has had to endure is the divisive nature of YOUR culture. American culture it's everywhere. Soundbites, dumbing down, corrupting the language, rewriting history it's fucking horrible.

[Fenster]

People pouring into England has changed that country, it's a fact, and you're not changing for the better either look at Luton, look at Rotherham, it's happening all over but you just want to turn a blind eye because otherwise you'd have to address what has happened to a once great and proud nation.

Not having a pop at you or anything just want to point something out - I know you mean the Rotherham muslim rape gangs but my brother recently moved to Rotherham to live with his fiance/baby, as someone that comes from London he said the weirdest thing about the place is everyone is white and so friendly. Now obviously he lives in a countryside/small village area but still...