Golovkin-Canelo OFFICIAL!!!- Sept 16th

**J_Undisputed** · 05-12-2017 06:57 AM

Originally Posted by Alpha

The money may have always been there but it was Canelo bringing it in. GGG can't make money as we've seen.

So why not take a few extra paydays along the way? It's not like the other titlests were rushing to outdo him. Barr Lemieux.

Both Jacobs and now Saunders have taken longer to face GGG than Canelo. Both are career middleweights. Canelo has moved up in weight and is fighting the best guy in the division quicker than some other belt holders have dared to.

The biggest contention for me is that "along the way", he wasn't fighting other 160 guys at 160. He fought a 147 pounder, a 154 pounder , while holding on to the 160 lb strap. If he wanted to drop the the strap immediately and wander aimlessly through the divisions, draining big guys and bloating small guys while looking for money fights, I might look at it as a side show but really what can you do. Those guys accepted those fights. Even per the rules, you could give Canelo a little bit of breathing room for defending the WBC against khan (at 160 as long as he paid GGG the step aside fee and Khan was ranked -- or at 155 for no title as long as he was back at 160 to defend against his mandatory (GGG) in the next fight. At least Cotto, agreed to pay GGG the step aside fee to fight Canelo instead (before refusing to pay the sanctioning fee and refusing to honor his word)

If Canelo kept the belt and kept stalling GGG while he fought a saunders, jacobs, Lemieux, stevens, monroe, lee or someone who ranked, he'd be getting more slack, I think. If you take the title and defend it against junior middle weights and welters and then when you're forced to fulfill your obligations at the weight, you throw a tantrum ("artificial deadlines") and lay the strap down... it looks bad. But ok, you drop the strap and walked away and fight whoever you want for bigger money some people might still watch.... but he kept coming back saying... But im not chicken!!!... and then you insult the consensus but uncrowned unified champ (WBO not withstanding) a low ball flat fee so he'll deliberately price himself out in a desperate attempt to gain back street credit. You can't have it both ways.

Why not just fight and beat saunders and see how bad a deal GGG was willing to make to complete his collection. Because somehow if G needs S and S needs G.. and C needs both... then the answer is chavez. If Canelo is all about the money angle, that's cool but it reminds of when I was kid and used to watch the wwe ..when it was still the wwf... they had this guy, who didn't win the championships.. and just made his own "million dollar belt"... that people could fight him for but would have his toadie cheat those people so they could never win his belt... Finally one day guess someone beat him and the whole gimmick was over cuz the belt didn't mean squat without the guy and the guy didn't mean squat without the gimmick. Achievement without integrity = a Biillionaire president that no one listens to.

**brocktonblockbust** · 05-12-2017 07:54 AM

Triple G will stop Canelo in the 7th round the referee will have to come in and stop it Canelo might not go down he has too much pride in his too young his head is going to get a real Kraken like a pumpkin or watermelon

**Master** · 05-12-2017 07:55 AM

Originally Posted by J_Undisputed

Originally Posted by Alpha

The money may have always been there but it was Canelo bringing it in. GGG can't make money as we've seen.

So why not take a few extra paydays along the way? It's not like the other titlests were rushing to outdo him. Barr Lemieux.

Both Jacobs and now Saunders have taken longer to face GGG than Canelo. Both are career middleweights. Canelo has moved up in weight and is fighting the best guy in the division quicker than some other belt holders have dared to.

The biggest contention for me is that "along the way", he wasn't fighting other 160 guys at 160. He fought a 147 pounder, a 154 pounder , while holding on to the 160 lb strap. If he wanted to drop the the strap immediately and wander aimlessly through the divisions, draining big guys and bloating small guys while looking for money fights, I might look at it as a side show but really what can you do. Those guys accepted those fights. Even per the rules, you could give Canelo a little bit of breathing room for defending the WBC against khan (at 160 as long as he paid GGG the step aside fee and Khan was ranked -- or at 155 for no title as long as he was back at 160 to defend against his mandatory (GGG) in the next fight. At least Cotto, agreed to pay GGG the step aside fee to fight Canelo instead (before refusing to pay the sanctioning fee and refusing to honor his word)

If Canelo kept the belt and kept stalling GGG while he fought a saunders, jacobs, Lemieux, stevens, monroe, lee or someone who ranked, he'd be getting more slack, I think. If you take the title and defend it against junior middle weights and welters and then when you're forced to fulfill your obligations at the weight, you throw a tantrum ("artificial deadlines") and lay the strap down... it looks bad. But ok, you drop the strap and walked away and fight whoever you want for bigger money some people might still watch.... but he kept coming back saying... But im not chicken!!!... and then you insult the consensus but uncrowned unified champ (WBO not withstanding) a low ball flat fee so he'll deliberately price himself out in a desperate attempt to gain back street credit. You can't have it both ways.

Why not just fight and beat saunders and see how bad a deal GGG was willing to make to complete his collection. Because somehow if G needs S and S needs G.. and C needs both... then the answer is chavez. If Canelo is all about the money angle, that's cool but it reminds of when I was kid and used to watch the wwe ..when it was still the wwf... they had this guy, who didn't win the championships.. and just made his own "million dollar belt"... that people could fight him for but would have his toadie cheat those people so they could never win his belt... Finally one day guess someone beat him and the whole gimmick was over cuz the belt didn't mean squat without the guy and the guy didn't mean squat without the gimmick. Achievement without integrity = a Biillionaire president that no one listens to.

Magic post. The end.