UK general election

[El Kabong]

Ah, a good lefty will never admit in public how far left they really are.....good to see that occurs even across the pond.

[Master]

I know May's list is to try and win working class votes but the difference is Cameron would have not even attempted to pretend to care for this group.

[Beanz]

Ah, a good lefty will never admit in public how far left they really are.....good to see that occurs even across the pond.

Nice and current there. We are not allergic to words like Marxist and communist in this country Lyle as grown ups people can have a discussion without fear of catching socialism as though it is an STD. You are so hung up on words and yet the current government are silent over the thousands of terminally ill people found fit for work who died after being found able to work by an American company profiteering off their families compounded misery. ATOS etc have an abominable record and yet you are worried about a word. The Conservative CAPITALIST bastards are killing people here and now, and yet today May when confronted on it replies like a condescending zombie. It's really important because if you can not look after the vulnerable in your society, then whatever system you have, is not worth a damn. As the daughter of a Christian vicar you would have thought May might understand that principle, but apparently not, it's too complex for her.

[Dark Lord Al]

Everything is pointing to a tory victory , Corbyn and his sidekick excel at being cunts.
I didn't vote for either party in the last election , however I wouldn't vote labour for a gold watch.

[Beanz]

I have been so fucked over by the Tories I would not vote for them for a goldmine. They have got us further into debt and sold off everything to foreign companies. I don't earn £80, 000 + a year and so will have to be selfish and vote for them as the country is going to the dogs under May and her bunch of hooligans. I have a business to think about, and it and my families future, is fucked under May.

[El Kabong]

Nice and current there. We are not allergic to words like Marxist and communist in this country Lyle as grown ups people can have a discussion without fear of catching socialism as though it is an STD. You are so hung up on words and yet the current government are silent over the thousands of terminally ill people found fit for work who died after being found able to work by an American company profiteering off their families compounded misery. ATOS etc have an abominable record and yet you are worried about a word. The Conservative CAPITALIST bastards are killing people here and now, and yet today May when confronted on it replies like a condescending zombie. It's really important because if you can not look after the vulnerable in your society, then whatever system you have, is not worth a damn. As the daughter of a Christian vicar you would have thought May might understand that principle, but apparently not, it's too complex for her.

Do you think it is a Christian value to expect the Government to care for those in need? Hahaha, and Jesus called on his comrades "Ye, we can't be letting people starve and shit, let's protest this illegal Roman occupation and show them who we are this glorious May Day, all praise Marx!"



Take a look at how well Venezuela, Cuba, and China care for their less fortunate populations while their leaders rake in big time cash......think Fidel Castro cared about the people he starved? He was busy counting his money. Same with Chavez!


Socialism/Communism is either the unluckiest form of economy ever....OR it doesn't fucking work and spits out monsters!

[Beanz]

Nice and current there. We are not allergic to words like Marxist and communist in this country Lyle as grown ups people can have a discussion without fear of catching socialism as though it is an STD. You are so hung up on words and yet the current government are silent over the thousands of terminally ill people found fit for work who died after being found able to work by an American company profiteering off their families compounded misery. ATOS etc have an abominable record and yet you are worried about a word. The Conservative CAPITALIST bastards are killing people here and now, and yet today May when confronted on it replies like a condescending zombie. It's really important because if you can not look after the vulnerable in your society, then whatever system you have, is not worth a damn. As the daughter of a Christian vicar you would have thought May might understand that principle, but apparently not, it's too complex for her.

Do you think it is a Christian value to expect the Government to care for those in need? Hahaha, and Jesus called on his comrades "Ye, we can't be letting people starve and shit, let's protest this illegal Roman occupation and show them who we are this glorious May Day, all praise Marx!"



Take a look at how well Venezuela, Cuba, and China care for their less fortunate populations while their leaders rake in big time cash......think Fidel Castro cared about the people he starved? He was busy counting his money. Same with Chavez!


Socialism/Communism is either the unluckiest form of economy ever....OR it doesn't fucking work and spits out monsters!

You are missing the point entirely. Whoever gets in it will be a capitalist system but the way you administer it is hugely important. My friend of 25+ years had his Independent living allowance drastically reduced by this current extreme form of capitalism. He can not use his arms, is very hard to understand so talks by pointing at words with a pointer on a helmet and propels himself around with one foot from his wheelchair. He has lived independently since his late teens and his allowance pays for a carer for a few hours a day. He does not use them to push his chair he uses them just so he can be fed and bathed , dressed etc. He has stood for councilor, is a life model, actor and is now studying for his masters in dance/choreography. They want him to go and live in a care home in his late 40's. His contribution to society is really important but not so much financially. Putting in a care home will kill him but for Tories they would say it makes financial sense. When Jesus used the example of the good Samaritan the whole point was, go and help someone different to you. Anyone can help their own. Even terrorists and Nazi Skinheads look after their own. The point is that as somebody so severely disabled him being seen to be independent and active around the city and university is invaluable. It educates and inspires because he is so different than most people. The government should acknowledge that and yes they should care for those in need. Fucking hell what kind of Government does not care for those in need?

Anyone can care for those who look after themselves, and the Tories by shielded bankers who frivolously squandered millions whilst expecting the working man to buy out those banks who would have went bust, looked after their own. Society should not work like that.


Even Jesus the revolutionary paid his taxes saying that one should render unto Caesar what is Caesars. So what is the excuse of the Christians running huge corporations refusing to pay taxes that would fund caring for those in need?

[Dark Lord Al]

Nice and current there. We are not allergic to words like Marxist and communist in this country Lyle as grown ups people can have a discussion without fear of catching socialism as though it is an STD. You are so hung up on words and yet the current government are silent over the thousands of terminally ill people found fit for work who died after being found able to work by an American company profiteering off their families compounded misery. ATOS etc have an abominable record and yet you are worried about a word. The Conservative CAPITALIST bastards are killing people here and now, and yet today May when confronted on it replies like a condescending zombie. It's really important because if you can not look after the vulnerable in your society, then whatever system you have, is not worth a damn. As the daughter of a Christian vicar you would have thought May might understand that principle, but apparently not, it's too complex for her.

Do you think it is a Christian value to expect the Government to care for those in need? Hahaha, and Jesus called on his comrades "Ye, we can't be letting people starve and shit, let's protest this illegal Roman occupation and show them who we are this glorious May Day, all praise Marx!"



Take a look at how well Venezuela, Cuba, and China care for their less fortunate populations while their leaders rake in big time cash......think Fidel Castro cared about the people he starved? He was busy counting his money. Same with Chavez!


Socialism/Communism is either the unluckiest form of economy ever....OR it doesn't fucking work and spits out monsters!

You are missing the point entirely. Whoever gets in it will be a capitalist system but the way you administer it is hugely important. My friend of 25+ years had his Independent living allowance drastically reduced by this current extreme form of capitalism. He can not use his arms, is very hard to understand so talks by pointing at words with a pointer on a helmet and propels himself around with one foot from his wheelchair. He has lived independently since his late teens and his allowance pays for a carer for a few hours a day. He does not use them to push his chair he uses them just so he can be fed and bathed , dressed etc. He has stood for councilor, is a life model, actor and is now studying for his masters in dance/choreography. They want him to go and live in a care home in his late 40's. His contribution to society is really important but not so much financially. Putting in a care home will kill him but for Tories they would say it makes financial sense. When Jesus used the example of the good Samaritan the whole point was, go and help someone different to you. Anyone can help their own. Even terrorists and Nazi Skinheads look after their own. The point is that as somebody so severely disabled him being seen to be independent and active around the city and university is invaluable. It educates and inspires because he is so different than most people. The government should acknowledge that and yes they should care for those in need. Fucking hell what kind of Government does not care for those in need?

Anyone can care for those who look after themselves, and the Tories by shielded bankers who frivolously squandered millions whilst expecting the working man to buy out those banks who would have went bust, looked after their own. Society should not work like that.


Even Jesus the revolutionary paid his taxes saying that one should render unto Caesar what is Caesars. So what is the excuse of the Christians running huge corporations refusing to pay taxes that would fund caring for those in need?

What exactly is that benefit ?

[Gandalf]

I must admit I would quite like to go to a care home. I find it a burden sometimes that I have to work, cook my meals, pay the bills etc. I heard that the prisons out here even give free language lessons, so I kind of look at that with the free board, food, lessons etc as a bit of a luxury. I would love to be able to just read my books, do a little language learning, do a little writing and otherwise do nothing else, but it's hard to find the time to do that when you work so much. There's a certain kind of security on the inside which you don't get in the outside world. I don't regard it as especially free to have to look for jobs, worry about the future and all that. I once asked my wife if I could go to a mental hospital of some kind for a break and apparently you have to pay a lot of money to stay there, so even that is a no go. You have to stay outside and work or die if you don't. Even in the hospital it's 200 pounds a night for a private room. It's quite extreme in the outside world.

[Gandalf]

That was slightly off topic. I should probably look into hiring a Filipino maid or something, but I'm a bit stingy. I have to vacuum every single day and do the washing up. It's ridiculous! No need to go to a mental hospital or prison just because I don't want to cook dinner though. Though someone who thinks like that could probably use a holiday of some kind. I just finished work and I am hungry whence the moan. I blame Walrus.

BTW, Jeremy Corbyn is an anagram of My Beer, Corny J! You learn something new everyday.

[Beanz]

Nice and current there. We are not allergic to words like Marxist and communist in this country Lyle as grown ups people can have a discussion without fear of catching socialism as though it is an STD. You are so hung up on words and yet the current government are silent over the thousands of terminally ill people found fit for work who died after being found able to work by an American company profiteering off their families compounded misery. ATOS etc have an abominable record and yet you are worried about a word. The Conservative CAPITALIST bastards are killing people here and now, and yet today May when confronted on it replies like a condescending zombie. It's really important because if you can not look after the vulnerable in your society, then whatever system you have, is not worth a damn. As the daughter of a Christian vicar you would have thought May might understand that principle, but apparently not, it's too complex for her.

Do you think it is a Christian value to expect the Government to care for those in need? Hahaha, and Jesus called on his comrades "Ye, we can't be letting people starve and shit, let's protest this illegal Roman occupation and show them who we are this glorious May Day, all praise Marx!"



Take a look at how well Venezuela, Cuba, and China care for their less fortunate populations while their leaders rake in big time cash......think Fidel Castro cared about the people he starved? He was busy counting his money. Same with Chavez!


Socialism/Communism is either the unluckiest form of economy ever....OR it doesn't fucking work and spits out monsters!

You are missing the point entirely. Whoever gets in it will be a capitalist system but the way you administer it is hugely important. My friend of 25+ years had his Independent living allowance drastically reduced by this current extreme form of capitalism. He can not use his arms, is very hard to understand so talks by pointing at words with a pointer on a helmet and propels himself around with one foot from his wheelchair. He has lived independently since his late teens and his allowance pays for a carer for a few hours a day. He does not use them to push his chair he uses them just so he can be fed and bathed , dressed etc. He has stood for councilor, is a life model, actor and is now studying for his masters in dance/choreography. They want him to go and live in a care home in his late 40's. His contribution to society is really important but not so much financially. Putting in a care home will kill him but for Tories they would say it makes financial sense. When Jesus used the example of the good Samaritan the whole point was, go and help someone different to you. Anyone can help their own. Even terrorists and Nazi Skinheads look after their own. The point is that as somebody so severely disabled him being seen to be independent and active around the city and university is invaluable. It educates and inspires because he is so different than most people. The government should acknowledge that and yes they should care for those in need. Fucking hell what kind of Government does not care for those in need?

Anyone can care for those who look after themselves, and the Tories by shielded bankers who frivolously squandered millions whilst expecting the working man to buy out those banks who would have went bust, looked after their own. Society should not work like that.


Even Jesus the revolutionary paid his taxes saying that one should render unto Caesar what is Caesars. So what is the excuse of the Christians running huge corporations refusing to pay taxes that would fund caring for those in need?

What exactly is that benefit ?

The Independent Living Fund was set up for the most disabled people in society to be able to live independently . Mostly people with things like Cerebral Palsy like my mate.

[El Kabong]

Even Jesus the revolutionary paid his taxes saying that one should render unto Caesar what is Caesars. So what is the excuse of the Christians running huge corporations refusing to pay taxes that would fund caring for those in need?

Ah yes, because Government is the most altruistic and best instrument for charity which is why all of those less fortunate people in Cuba, Venezuela, China, and the former Soviet Union were cared for so well by their governments.

yeah yeah, it's the fault of capitalism that communism sucks so fucking bad, I get it, everything bad ever has only happened because of Capitalism

[Beanz]

Even Jesus the revolutionary paid his taxes saying that one should render unto Caesar what is Caesars. So what is the excuse of the Christians running huge corporations refusing to pay taxes that would fund caring for those in need?

Ah yes, because Government is the most altruistic and best instrument for charity which is why all of those less fortunate people in Cuba, Venezuela, China, and the former Soviet Union were cared for so well by their governments.

yeah yeah, it's the fault of capitalism that communism sucks so fucking bad, I get it, everything bad ever has only happened because of Capitalism

That is the complete opposite of what I said. All the parties are capitalists so stop dreaming up excuses. It's not charity people want,so don't be so patronising, people want to be treated like human beings. Altruism should be an ideal of both Government and the individual.

You are just making up bullshit again. I don't even know why it would bother you which way the UK voted.

[Beanz]

[El Kabong]

That is the complete opposite of what I said. All the parties are capitalists so stop dreaming up excuses. It's not charity people want,so don't be so patronising, people want to be treated like human beings. Altruism should be an ideal of both Government and the individual.

You are just making up bullshit again. I don't even know why it would bother you which way the UK voted.

All the parties are capitalist? The Communist Party backs Corbyn, the Socialists want to join Labour and back Corbyn. Corbyn's buddy John McDonnell admitted (in the right company) that "I don't lie, I'm a Marxist" his words, not mine, but all the parties are Capitalist? I question it.

"It's not charity people want,so don't be so patronising, people want to be treated like human beings. Altruism should be an ideal of both Government and the individual."

Oh I'm sorry you're the overseer of all the people who have problems? Yeah I've read about your friend, he's not the only one with issues, but that's OK you complain for him, you go out and tell people that their money should go to HIM regardless of any troubles they might be facing. Oh you're a small business owner who pays alimony to your ex-wife and you have a child who is in poor health and will never work a proper job? YOU need to pay up you dirty capitalist pig dog! Why? Because there are people other than you who can't work and are dependent on taxpayers flipping the bill for them. You care for your employees, you care for your ex-wife, you care for your sickly daughter, but that's not enough you need to care for everyone else too!


Don't fucking lecture me about the less fortunate and how they need to be cared for, I fucking do that in my spare time.....when I'm not working, when I'm not caring for my family, I take my time, my effort, and I help those in need and I think we do a hell of a lot better than the fucking government does!