
Originally Posted by
El Kabong

Originally Posted by
Beanz
Nice and current there. We are not allergic to words like Marxist and communist in this country Lyle as grown ups people can have a discussion without fear of catching socialism as though it is an STD. You are so hung up on words and yet the current government are silent over the thousands of terminally ill people found fit for work who died after being found able to work by an American company profiteering off their families compounded misery. ATOS etc have an abominable record and yet you are worried about a word. The Conservative CAPITALIST bastards are killing people here and now, and yet today May when confronted on it replies like a condescending zombie. It's really important because if you can not look after the vulnerable in your society, then whatever system you have, is not worth a damn. As the daughter of a Christian vicar you would have thought May might understand that principle, but apparently not, it's too complex for her.
Do you think it is a Christian value to expect the Government to care for those in need? Hahaha, and Jesus called on his comrades "Ye, we can't be letting people starve and shit, let's protest this illegal Roman occupation and show them who we are this glorious May Day, all praise Marx!"
Take a look at how well Venezuela, Cuba, and China care for their less fortunate populations while their leaders rake in big time cash......think Fidel Castro cared about the people he starved? He was busy counting his money. Same with Chavez!
Socialism/Communism is either the unluckiest form of economy ever....OR it doesn't fucking work and spits out monsters!
You are missing the point entirely. Whoever gets in it will be a capitalist system but the way you administer it is hugely important.
My friend of 25+ years had his Independent living allowance drastically reduced by this current extreme form of capitalism. He can not use his arms, is very hard to understand so talks by pointing at words with a pointer on a helmet and propels himself around with one foot from his wheelchair. He has lived independently since his late teens and his allowance pays for a carer for a few hours a day. He does not use them to push his chair he uses them just so he can be fed and bathed , dressed etc. He has stood for councilor, is a life model, actor and is now studying for his masters in dance/choreography. They want him to go and live in a care home in his late 40's. His contribution to society is really important but not so much financially. Putting in a care home will kill him but for Tories they would say it makes financial sense. When Jesus used the example of the good Samaritan the whole point was, go and help someone different to you. Anyone can help their own. Even terrorists and Nazi Skinheads look after their own. The point is that as somebody so severely disabled him being seen to be independent and active around the city and university is invaluable. It educates and inspires because he is so different than most people. The government should acknowledge that and yes they should care for those in need. Fucking hell what kind of Government does not care for those in need?
Anyone can care for those who look after themselves, and the Tories by shielded bankers who frivolously squandered millions whilst expecting the working man to buy out those banks who would have went bust, looked after their own. Society should not work like that.
Even Jesus the revolutionary paid his taxes saying that one should render unto Caesar what is Caesars. So what is the excuse of the Christians running huge corporations refusing to pay taxes that would fund caring for those in need?
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