22 dead in Manchester

[Gandalf]

Also how do you get a bomb into a venue like that? I thought it was akin to airplane security. Don't they pat you down, check your possessions etc? You can't just get a fricking nail bomb in there. Makes you wonder. If it is that easy you could have a John Lennon situation at every public event and surely that couldn't be the case. Doesn't quite add up.

I think the bomb was around the ticket office which is just outside of the actual venue, they wasn't actually inside I don't think.
I read that the stadium is actually above their main train station or something like that, if so it might be quite a weird set up.

I could be wrong but I'm sure I read that somewhere

Ahh, that would make more sense. I don't see how you could get a bomb into a big gig. I must admit I haven't followed the story closely. The timing of it all seems very iffy to me though. Everytime the polls swing a terrorist turns up. Happened with the referendum too.

[smashup]

No security checks whatsoever until you actually went from the lobby into the arena so only people going inside the Arena were searched (if you can even call it searched), loads of stories coming out from people who were there saying the searches were a joke and Security were hardly checking anyone just the odd glimpse into a handbag etc.

Anyone could have wandered into that lobby from the street as the concert was coming to an end and it's when security at any venue is at it's most lax and masses of people are starting to come out and exit the venue.

This attack has seriously pissed people off and there's a lot of anger about this one, targeting little kids has seriously moved the goal posts.

[El Kabong]

[brocktonblockbust]

Yeah. . IT SURE WASNT THE AMISH

[El Kabong]

Salman Abedi, apparently was the bomber so the reports said.....Abedi, is that a Scottish name? Welsh maybe? No no no it's Irish it has to be, has to be the IRA that has done this.