Some cultures are better than others ? True, False, Impossible to answer conclusively

[El Kabong]

Lyle, is it that difficult to admit that your opinion may be colored by the fact that you've never known any other way of life? Do you really feel that most decent Muslims living over there are looking at the U.S. and saying... "Geeez, I'd really rather live other there." Do you really think there isn't the slightest possibility whatsoever that some decent, law-abiding Muslims in that part of the world are fully aware of the differences in culture and say... "All things considered, I like our culture better." See... you're perfectly within your bounds (and in fact should be expected) to like your own culture better. It's what you're used to.

Let's look this way instead of that way. Let's imagine a perfectly decent, law-abiding Muslim looking at the news and saying stuff like:


"I can't believe the way they allow people to belong to hate organizations like the Skinheads, Neo-Nazis, KKK, White Supremacists.... and they can say and do whatever they like."

"I can't believe black people are treated so badly by law enforcement over there, to the point where black people find it necessary to form protest organizations and take to the streets."

"I can't believe people's rights are protected to the extreme that they can say whatever the hell they want about anything and anybody."



Now.... isn't it possible that one of those people looking in this direction, when asked the same question, might answer that their own culture is better than ours? Once again, there's extremists in every culture. They give their own culture a bad name, and makes it look bad in the eyes of people from other cultures.

Sure, let's go with that TitoFan I mean I have studied, I have worked in situations where the "American culture" is not the dominant culture, but sure, let's just benefit of the doubt say "Yes @TitoFan of course".

If they aren't over there saying "Geeez, I'd really rather live other there."....why is there a migration crisis coming FROM the Middle East & North African nations TO Western industrialized nations? Is it just jobs? Is it just money? Is it just getting away from war? I mean if any of those things are the cause then people would have moved long ago because things haven't changed much in the Middle East.

They may very well like their culture, that's not the point, the point is their culture is allowed and even welcomed over here ***CAVEAT*** so long as it doesn't impede on the rights of other people here.

Yes....skinheads, neo-Nazis, KKK, and White Supremacists are SUCH the problem here...no, no, it's ok, I'm accepting your premise THOSE AREN'T GENERALLY ACCEPTABLE GROUPS CULTURALLY SPEAKING....but ok so they say that, what of it, what are the stats, the numbers behind those groups in violent crime? Better or worse than Militant Islamists? Nationally or globally, either or hell do BOTH....yeah I understand "It's impossible to tell"

Black people are ALWAYS murdered by the police....ALWAYS....again it's not something the average person jumps up and cheers for unlike say being an Islamic Extremist in Palestine where you'd get benefits paid to you or if you were a suicide bomber your FAMILY would be paid for your sacrifice to Allah Peace Be upon Him....do police get that? Where is Darren Wilson these days? I'm fairly certain he is not "living peacefully" in Ferguson, MO much less being given money by the federal government.

Yup, freedom of speech is so horrible and awful and EVERYONE has it, EVERYONE because we're all equal....what a horrible and racist VILE thing to say


Sure it's possible to think your culture is the best having lived in it and only in it, but that's not the crux of my argument. My argument is: although no culture is perfect, some cultures are better than others. I didn't say American culture is 100% the greatest hands down, I didn't say Islamic cultures are 100% the worst hands down, I said SOME cultures are better than OTHERS. When I look at American culture, there's good (freedoms, liberty, the ability to choose your path in life) and there's bad (I guess in this case I'd say poor care for veterans, homelessness, a booming prison population, an obsession with illegal drugs using/selling/policing) in Islamic cultures there are good things (great faith in the afterlife, a focus on family, generosity in terms of charity) and there's bad (suicide bombings, inbreeding, hatred of gays to the point where they're murdered when found out, etc).

You take the good, you take the bad.....you take them BOTH.......and there you have, The Facts of Life TitoFan, The facts of Life.

Let me just add...... I will say that IMHO the extremists of the Islamic culture/religion are a billion times worse than the extremists of just about any other culture. Strapping on a bomb and blowing up dozens or even hundreds of people is beyond despicable. What makes it even worse is that the perpetrators die and cannot be subjected to the most inhumane torture possible. Hmm... I just read what I wrote, and who knows... maybe I belong in another culture.

Hol up, hol up, hol......UP


You telling me that you are able to tell that 1 group is better than another group based on their actions?!?!?!


Whaaaaaaaaaa?



...... it's like I've read somebody else saying something like that, like some cultures are better than others or some shit.....but hell man, to ME to ME it's IMPOSSIBLE to tell