22 dead in Manchester

[Batman]

I read another forum (a villa one) and it's pretty heavily modded (to the point it spoils the forum) but this is a pretty emotional topic and even over there is has gone the same way as this one has.

[TitoFan]

It's tough to know what the answer is to these tragedies. I saw an archbishop on a TV talk show saying the Pope would probably and predictably say the best way to respond is not with more violence, but with unity, reaching out and understanding.

I can't even imagine what it's like to live in a country where now you can't even go to a damn concert, for fear of being blown to smithereens. We have a lot of problems in this side of the world, and more specifically in the tropical island where I live. But nothing compares with the loss of freedom that this type of incident causes the average person.

A person walked into a concert filled with young kids and blew himself up, killing now 22 people, maybe more. Apparently some here even have been touched even indirectly by this tragedy. It's hard to get your mind around that.

What's the answer? The knee-jerk reaction is to go out and obliterate all known or suspected terrorists in a vengeful seek-and-destroy mission. (At least that's MY first reaction). But how? And will that make things any better? Is this going to become the new norm now? We humans have such a capacity to absorb and then adapt to change, good or bad. Are we supposed to absorb and then adapt to this type of thing?

I feel for the good Muslims, too. With every suicide bomber, it becomes harder and harder for the rest of us to maintain our objectivity. Let me say, there's been heavy arguments here over cultures and whatnot. It's an emotional argument, but a good one, which I'm sure plays out in bar conversations as well.

Right now the focus is on the victims and families of the victims of this horrific attack. But looking forward, what is the new normal? Surely we can't just sit around and wait for the next tragedy. Ideas need to start flowing more than ever on just how to revert this trend.

[brocktonblockbust]

Its amazing really how protective the Globalist/UN/Merkel/Lefty-TARD/TARD's/***KUMBAYA*** psychopath ~Muslim/black apologists~ are. "A 24 hour BLACKOUT on "rude" speech" FFS

you just couldn't make that shit up. How they care about the wrong shit! But the real shit they won't say a fucking word that might "offend" anyone!

FFS the word "final" now is a problem for Libtard SJWs. Let's call the police! Someone said "final solution"! Ooooh! Ooooh!

[El Kabong]

This just in...
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-br...-idUSKBN18K2IR
'Manchester bomber's father arrested in Libya' Reuters

[El Kabong]

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/manchest...ood-terrorism/

Concert bomber's neighborhood at crux of terror "network"?
The Guardian newspaper reported in February that no fewer than 16 people from a two-and-a-half mile radius in that area had either died fighting with jihadist groups, or been convicted of terrorism offenses. Six of those individuals came from within just one mile of the Moss Side neighborhood where another infamous resident lived.



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Holy fuck guys, and you're going to tell me "Well there's really no problem if not for you bigot xenophobe Islamaphobe racists!"......no, no, there's ummmm England you got a bit of a problem here. Does the United States need to send over some friends and have an intervention for you or something? Holy fuck, 16 people from a 2 and a half mile radius.....but hey #notALLmuslims it's just a good amount from THAT specific neighborhood. Fucking hell guys, I mean does that not worry anyone? It would fucking bug me....

Person A: "you know we're at war"

Person B: "Who with?"

Person A: "oh a couple them blokes from down the road and ISIS"

That strikes nobody as shocking? Something in need of IMMEDIATE action? Nothing?

[walrus]

@El Kabong this is a small price to pay for diversity. #openorborders. #islamisthereligionofpeace

[Gandalf]

Clearly a terrorist attack looking at the evidence. I think one should always realise that these things do not operate in a vacuum though. It's understandable that people are angry and looking for someone to blame, but the West has been at war with the Middle East for a decade and a half now and that should always be remembered. Wikileaks showed that we did this kind of thing to Iraqi's for fun. Tony Blair who started this mess is still walking free with nobody willing to do anything about it and that's where I think a new direction is desperately needed. Blair, Cameron, May, it is part of the same team that wants to take away your freedom and continue perpetual war. May has let the borders remain open, she was against Brexit, she supports taking away Internet freedom, she likely supports continued war. If you are against terrorism then you are against May. Corbyn on the other hand knows how to negotiate and see things from both sides. He is against perpetual war, he wants a free society, he brings hope. The policies that led to this were those of Blair and Cameron. Out with all of that.

[walrus]

Miles they do shit to draw in the west such as genocide on Christians. Do you not see Isis goal has nothing to do with revenge but creating a world wide caliphate? U will have no grasp of terrorism until you understand that