Kell Brook v Errol Spence Jr - 27/5/17 Sheffield UK

[Memphis]

First off I literally had brook winning 2 rounds. Brook had his moments in some rounds but spence was still landing the better shots and doing better at dictating the pace (although I agree that brook threw him off to an extant for sure). I see at most 4 rounds for brook. The one scorecard where it was only a point difference at the time of the stoppage was awful.

Anyways, these people making excuses now. Brook looked like a very good fighter in there. Potentially even a p4p fighter. He fought that fight I assumed he would. He tried to counter with the jab and be defensive. He executed his game plan but just got beat. Brook impressed me by showing he hasn't lost a step. Spence showed that he could overcome that and stop brook. There is no WW in the world that is better than brook IMO. I think brook was pretty easily the best WW until spence came along.

Spence will destroy Thurman. Spence is a lot better plus it's an awful style matchup for Thurman. Porter would just get countered all night. Garcia doesn't throw enough. Pacqiuao is too old and couldn't handle spence. Crawford is easily his biggest challenge around that weight.

You literally gave Brook 2 rounds and you see at most 4 rounds for Brook all at the same time? Bizarre.

Who's making excuses? Brook, Brooks promoter, and I think anyone else who's commented said the better man won no? Sure there's speculation about weight, the Golovkin affect, should he shouldnt he. But excuses? There are none.

[powerpuncher]

First off I literally had brook winning 2 rounds. Brook had his moments in some rounds but spence was still landing the better shots and doing better at dictating the pace (although I agree that brook threw him off to an extant for sure). I see at most 4 rounds for brook. The one scorecard where it was only a point difference at the time of the stoppage was awful.

Anyways, these people making excuses now. Brook looked like a very good fighter in there. Potentially even a p4p fighter. He fought that fight I assumed he would. He tried to counter with the jab and be defensive. He executed his game plan but just got beat. Brook impressed me by showing he hasn't lost a step. Spence showed that he could overcome that and stop brook. There is no WW in the world that is better than brook IMO. I think brook was pretty easily the best WW until spence came along.

Spence will destroy Thurman. Spence is a lot better plus it's an awful style matchup for Thurman. Porter would just get countered all night. Garcia doesn't throw enough. Pacqiuao is too old and couldn't handle spence. Crawford is easily his biggest challenge around that weight.

You literally gave Brook 2 rounds and you see at most 4 rounds for Brook all at the same time? Bizarre.

Who's making excuses? Brook, Brooks promoter, and I think anyone else who's commented said the better man won no? Sure there's speculation about weight, the Golovkin affect, should he shouldnt he. But excuses? There are none.

I don't see why that's bizarre? Maybe I'm not understanding what you are saying.

I've seen multiple people in this thread talk about brook being hesitant because of his other eye or that going back down in weight hurt him. Brook gave no excuses which was nice. Plain and simple, Spence was the better fighter and proved it. Brook showed he was still the same good fighter he always was and even admitted that Spence was probably the best fighter he had ever faced.

[Ron Swanson]

I apologies I can't do links on this site for some reason but here is a I think Russian version of the fight if someone wants to watch just cut and paste to the browser

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=C1PJbFR54PI

And I have to apologize to powerpuncher, I disagreed saying Kell won more than 2 rounds. I seem to have let the U.K. Announcers sway me. Sucks to know I am so easily manipulated. Upon rewatching and only watching the fight Spence was landing the better more damaging punches, and more, all fight. Props to you powerpuncher for seeing it correct on first viewing.

Edit- what do you know, my link worked. Did it the same as always.

[powerpuncher]

I apologies I can't do links on this site for some reason but here is a I think Russian version of the fight if someone wants to watch just cut and paste to the browser

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=C1PJbFR54PI

And I have to apologize to powerpuncher, I disagreed saying Kell won more than 2 rounds. I seem to have let the U.K. Announcers sway me. Sucks to know I am so easily manipulated. Upon rewatching and only watching the fight Spence was landing the better more damaging punches, and more, all fight. Props to you powerpuncher for seeing it correct on first viewing.

Edit- what do you know, my link worked. Did it the same as always.

I was actually shocked that the showtime announces seemed super bias for brook. Spence would land some good punches throughout the round and then brook would land a decent shot and the broadcasters would be like "what a shot by brook! He just won the round with that punch!" I understand the fans cheer for their guy but the announcers were awful for this fight and I generally like Bernstein and Paulie.

Thanks for the apology. I had to watch the fight recorded because I had just gotten back from camping, so I was expecting multiple people to see it like I did even though showtime made it seem like it was so close. Obviously I was wrong.

[beenKOed]

I'm gonna call Spence 'Sniper' now, the guy is a real cool customer. He didn't even act like he wanted to smile, not to mention actually celebrate after that win.

[Fenster]

I apologies I can't do links on this site for some reason but here is a I think Russian version of the fight if someone wants to watch just cut and paste to the browser

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=C1PJbFR54PI

And I have to apologize to powerpuncher, I disagreed saying Kell won more than 2 rounds. I seem to have let the U.K. Announcers sway me. Sucks to know I am so easily manipulated. Upon rewatching and only watching the fight Spence was landing the better more damaging punches, and more, all fight. Props to you powerpuncher for seeing it correct on first viewing.

Edit- what do you know, my link worked. Did it the same as always.

I was actually shocked that the showtime announces seemed super bias for brook. Spence would land some good punches throughout the round and then brook would land a decent shot and the broadcasters would be like "what a shot by brook! He just won the round with that punch!" I understand the fans cheer for their guy but the announcers were awful for this fight and I generally like Bernstein and Paulie.

Thanks for the apology. I had to watch the fight recorded because I had just gotten back from camping, so I was expecting multiple people to see it like I did even though showtime made it seem like it was so close. Obviously I was wrong.

If Showtime (USA), SKY (UK) and the vast majority of fans have it a close-ish fight then surely you must consider that YOU are the one showing bias? Surely that makes more sense, no?

You've predicted for months that Spence would win by annihilation. The very fact you're getting irked by commentaters specifically pointing out highlight points for Brook proves you weren't scoring the fight from a neutral perspective.

[powerpuncher]

I apologies I can't do links on this site for some reason but here is a I think Russian version of the fight if someone wants to watch just cut and paste to the browser

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=C1PJbFR54PI

And I have to apologize to powerpuncher, I disagreed saying Kell won more than 2 rounds. I seem to have let the U.K. Announcers sway me. Sucks to know I am so easily manipulated. Upon rewatching and only watching the fight Spence was landing the better more damaging punches, and more, all fight. Props to you powerpuncher for seeing it correct on first viewing.

Edit- what do you know, my link worked. Did it the same as always.

I was actually shocked that the showtime announces seemed super bias for brook. Spence would land some good punches throughout the round and then brook would land a decent shot and the broadcasters would be like "what a shot by brook! He just won the round with that punch!" I understand the fans cheer for their guy but the announcers were awful for this fight and I generally like Bernstein and Paulie.

Thanks for the apology. I had to watch the fight recorded because I had just gotten back from camping, so I was expecting multiple people to see it like I did even though showtime made it seem like it was so close. Obviously I was wrong.

If Showtime (USA), SKY (UK) and the vast majority of fans have it a close-ish fight then surely you must consider that YOU are the one showing bias? Surely that makes more sense, no?

You've predicted for months that Spence would win by annihilation. The very fact you're getting irked by commentaters specifically pointing out highlight points for Brook proves you weren't scoring the fight from a neutral perspective.

I see how that makes sense, but to me it seemed like people got very swayed by the crowd and commentators.

Brook did do well in spots for sure and made Spence look less than great in spots. The commentators to me seemed obviously bias. I understand many others scored what they scored but they were way more animated when Brook landed one punch that wasn't great than they were when Spence knocked down Brook. Maybe expectations of Spence were too high and they were surprised he wasn't completely dominating

[Master]

Kell Brook breaks left eye socket against Errol Spence Jr



Kell Brook broke his left eye socket in Saturday's defeat by Errol Spence Jr, his trainer Dominic Ingle has said.

The Briton struggled with swelling on his left eye midway through the bout as he lost the IBF world welterweight title to the American in Sheffield.

Brook, 31, had surgery after breaking his right eye socket in a loss to Gennady Golovkin in September.

"It's the same injury he sustained in the Golovkin fight but in the opposite eye," Ingle told BBC Radio 5 live.

Brook was knocked down by 27-year-old Spence in the 10th round and then stopped in the 11th, with his eye heavily swollen.

"It's disappointing for Kell to find himself in the same place again - in his comeback fight, but with the same damage," Ingle added.

"It is very unusual for it to happen again. He doesn't want to have to go through the same procedure of any operation again. It took a long time out and held him back from his training."

Brook said on Sunday that he knew from the seventh round that he had damaged the eye, adding that he struggled with blurred vision for the rest of the fight.

"I had a CT scan on my eye and the eye is broken again, same as the Golovkin one," Brook told Sky Sports.

"I remember the surgeon saying to me after the Golovkin fight, 'if you would have gone another round or so you could be blind' - so I've got that going through my mind as well."

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/boxing/40075800

[sanatogen]

Brook seemed up for the fight right up till the end where the eye must have become a major worry.

9th , 10th were the only rounds that were clearly spences imho

[TitoFan]

Just saw the fight a few minutes ago, without knowing beforehand who had won. At the time of the stoppage, I had Spence ahead by one point, basically because of the 10-8 of the round before. It was a damn good fight... too bad Brook had his eye damaged. It was his other eye, too. I hope it's nothing too serious.

[TitoFan]

Oops... never mind. Wow... another broken eye socket. Yeah... I'd definitely contemplate retirement if I was him.

[Alpha]

Unfortunate Brook suffered the injury but I think Spence may have got him out of there in the last round anyway. It was great to see Spence adjust from the midway point and start to take over. This fight ticked a lot of the boxes for Spence. I'm not sure how Brook holds up going forward now with having both eyes being injured. I'm guessing a move to 154 and the Khan fight is still viable.

[Master]

First off I literally had brook winning 2 rounds. Brook had his moments in some rounds but spence was still landing the better shots and doing better at dictating the pace (although I agree that brook threw him off to an extant for sure). I see at most 4 rounds for brook. The one scorecard where it was only a point difference at the time of the stoppage was awful.

Anyways, these people making excuses now. Brook looked like a very good fighter in there. Potentially even a p4p fighter. He fought that fight I assumed he would. He tried to counter with the jab and be defensive. He executed his game plan but just got beat. Brook impressed me by showing he hasn't lost a step. Spence showed that he could overcome that and stop brook. There is no WW in the world that is better than brook IMO. I think brook was pretty easily the best WW until spence came along.

Spence will destroy Thurman. Spence is a lot better plus it's an awful style matchup for Thurman. Porter would just get countered all night. Garcia doesn't throw enough. Pacqiuao is too old and couldn't handle spence. Crawford is easily his biggest challenge around that weight.

You literally gave Brook 2 rounds and you see at most 4 rounds for Brook all at the same time? Bizarre.

Who's making excuses? Brook, Brooks promoter, and I think anyone else who's commented said the better man won no? Sure there's speculation about weight, the Golovkin affect, should he shouldnt he. But excuses? There are none.

I don't see why that's bizarre? Maybe I'm not understanding what you are saying.

I've seen multiple people in this thread talk about brook being hesitant because of his other eye or that going back down in weight hurt him. Brook gave no excuses which was nice. Plain and simple, Spence was the better fighter and proved it. Brook showed he was still the same good fighter he always was and even admitted that Spence was probably the best fighter he had ever faced.

Brook did say Spence is the best and he is the real deal all the questions about him were answered.

Brook showed heart in the 10th and gave it one last effort but was not good enough. No shame in that loss.