Trump withdraws from the 2015 Paris Climate agreement

[El Kabong]

https://www.nasa.gov/feature/jpl/new...arctic-glacier





Climate Alarmists....


ALWAYS


REVISE


THEIR


BULLSHIT

[TitoFan]

This has devolved into the predictable argument of climate change..... believers vs. deniers.


What I don't understand is why..... when even many energy company CEO's in the US supported the Paris Agreement..... why did Trump decided against it. Is it possible that his objections, obviously rooted in money and jobs, were based on faulty information? Did Trump give this Agreement the analysis it deserves? Or was it just another knee-jerk reaction from Donald? Is there some sort of statement where people can feel assured that the U.S. does care about the environment.... and is not merely regressing back several decades?

Obviously support and criticism will predictably fall along party lines. What else is new....

[El Kabong]

This has devolved into the predictable argument of climate change..... believers vs. deniers.


What I don't understand is why..... when even many energy company CEO's in the US supported the Paris Agreement..... why did Trump decided against it. Is it possible that his objections, obviously rooted in money and jobs, were based on faulty information? Did Trump give this Agreement the analysis it deserves? Or was it just another knee-jerk reaction from Donald? Is there some sort of statement where people can feel assured that the U.S. does care about the environment.... and is not merely regressing back several decades?

Obviously support and criticism will predictably fall along party lines. What else is new....

People voted for him based on the fact that he would make decisions just like this!


People want the United States to rule and govern for them and not for the good of the world whatever that might be. Our politicians answer to us and us alone!

America always leads by example is this kind of shit! Anything we can throw our money at besides veterans and education right? Anything new we can tax the people for!

[TitoFan]

This has devolved into the predictable argument of climate change..... believers vs. deniers.


What I don't understand is why..... when even many energy company CEO's in the US supported the Paris Agreement..... why did Trump decided against it. Is it possible that his objections, obviously rooted in money and jobs, were based on faulty information? Did Trump give this Agreement the analysis it deserves? Or was it just another knee-jerk reaction from Donald? Is there some sort of statement where people can feel assured that the U.S. does care about the environment.... and is not merely regressing back several decades?

Obviously support and criticism will predictably fall along party lines. What else is new....

People voted for him based on the fact that he would make decisions just like this!


People want the United States to rule and govern for them and not for the good of the world whatever that might be. Our politicians answer to us and us alone!

America always leads by example is this kind of shit! Anything we can throw our money at besides veterans and education right? Anything new we can tax the people for!

Well hopefully after Trump people will come to their senses and vote for a man who not only runs the country well, but also cares about global issues, like any leader of a powerful country should.

[Gandalf]

Not true, Lyle. People voted for Trump because the democrats were corrupt and fielded the worst possible candidate. People didn't like Trump and people liked Clinton even less. It is highly unlikely that Trump won because people preferred his stance on global warming denial.

[El Kabong]

Well hopefully after Trump people will come to their senses and vote for a man who not only runs the country well, but also cares about global issues, like any leader of a powerful country should.

Again, when the rest of the fucking world starts pulling their own weight then we can talk. Look at NATO, look at the UN, look at any huge disaster earthquake, tsunami, drought, famine, who is the first to show up and with the most money? The United States, that's fucking who.

Not true, Lyle. People voted for Trump because the democrats were corrupt and fielded the worst possible candidate. People didn't like Trump and people liked Clinton even less. It is highly unlikely that Trump won because people preferred his stance on global warming denial.

No, people didn't vote for Trump because they were voting against Crooked Hillary and the Corrupt Democrats because if they WERE, if that WAS the belief then the Democrat party would simply cease to be. I WISH that was the case, but no the people who voted for Trump voted for an outsider who was going to at the very least TRY to put the American citizen first.

[Beanz]

outsider

[TitoFan]

Well hopefully after Trump people will come to their senses and vote for a man who not only runs the country well, but also cares about global issues, like any leader of a powerful country should.

Again, when the rest of the fucking world starts pulling their own weight then we can talk. Look at NATO, look at the UN, look at any huge disaster earthquake, tsunami, drought, famine, who is the first to show up and with the most money? The United States, that's fucking who.

Lyle, here's where we'll probably agree to disagree. Today's world and today's global problems require people/ leaders with a global vision. As opposed maybe to you, I believe it's possible to care both about your own country and about the world in general. It's ok for Trump to expect other countries to do their fair share and share the expenses in efforts that benefit everyone. But there's a world of difference between saying that, and just going about like the proverbial bull in a china shop, pulling out of accords and offending anyone and everyone who doesn't agree with him.

In other words, it's ok to say "America First". But America isn't the only tenant in the building. There's plenty of other world leaders with vision, good intentions, and willingness to work together for the good of the civilized world. Be it the environment, terrorism, or any other global issue.

Once again I'll invoke the tired but true "pendulum theory". You obviously viewed Obama as a pussy who bent over backwards and didn't put America's interests first. So for the sake of argument, let's go with that and assume it was necessary to reverse that trend a little bit. Don't you think we could've had a more deserving, Presidential, respect-inspiring person up there that could accomplish BOTH goals? That of putting American interests first, but without alienating/ isolating the rest of the world?

Only my opinion, of course.