Trump withdraws from the 2015 Paris Climate agreement

[Kirkland Laing]

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/...ushpmg00000009

A town of just about 2,000 people vs 2.7 million lost jobs by 2025





Geez what a hard choice to make



And again....the agreement would have "no discernible effect on global temperatures"....and you are never going to address that part are you? That "no discernible effect on global temperatures" part....you're just going to never talk about that and just hope it goes away.

What about the other thousands of miles of US coastline you fucking idiot? And what 2.7 million jobs?

[El Kabong]

What about the other thousands of miles of US coastline you fucking idiot? And what 2.7 million jobs?

You mean the thousands of miles not located right next to the ever changing Mississippi delta? What about it?


Thanks for calling me an idiot.


The estimated jobs lost had the United States stayed in the Paris Accords....thought you had been paying attention to that, but whatever, I understand. Anything Trump does = WRONG and anything YOU say = right. I'll agree with you, only if you want me to do so Kirkland.

[Kirkland Laing]

What about the other thousands of miles of US coastline you fucking idiot? And what 2.7 million jobs?

You mean the thousands of miles not located right next to the ever changing Mississippi delta? What about it?


Thanks for calling me an idiot.


The estimated jobs lost had the United States stayed in the Paris Accords....thought you had been paying attention to that, but whatever, I understand. Anything Trump does = WRONG and anything YOU say = right. I'll agree with you, only if you want me to do so Kirkland.

Just because Donald Trump says something doesn't make it true. There are no millions of projected job losses if American stays in the Paris agreement. Quite the opposite. Clean energy means huge amounts of new well paying jobs. Solar energy already employs nearly three times as many Americans as are employed in the US oil and gas industries.

[walrus]

What about the other thousands of miles of US coastline you fucking idiot? And what 2.7 million jobs?

You mean the thousands of miles not located right next to the ever changing Mississippi delta? What about it?


Thanks for calling me an idiot.


The estimated jobs lost had the United States stayed in the Paris Accords....thought you had been paying attention to that, but whatever, I understand. Anything Trump does = WRONG and anything YOU say = right. I'll agree with you, only if you want me to do so Kirkland.

Just because Donald Trump says something doesn't make it true. There are no millions of projected job losses if American stays in the Paris agreement. Quite the opposite. Clean energy means huge amounts of new well paying jobs. Solar energy already employs nearly three times as many Americans as are employed in the US oil and gas industries.

It wasn't trump who came out with it idiot it was independent studies

[Kirkland Laing]

What about the other thousands of miles of US coastline you fucking idiot? And what 2.7 million jobs?

You mean the thousands of miles not located right next to the ever changing Mississippi delta? What about it?


Thanks for calling me an idiot.


The estimated jobs lost had the United States stayed in the Paris Accords....thought you had been paying attention to that, but whatever, I understand. Anything Trump does = WRONG and anything YOU say = right. I'll agree with you, only if you want me to do so Kirkland.

Just because Donald Trump says something doesn't make it true. There are no millions of projected job losses if American stays in the Paris agreement. Quite the opposite. Clean energy means huge amounts of new well paying jobs. Solar energy already employs nearly three times as many Americans as are employed in the US oil and gas industries.

It wasn't trump who came out with it idiot it was independent studies

Show me these independent studies. I bet you can't.

[walrus]

What about the other thousands of miles of US coastline you fucking idiot? And what 2.7 million jobs?

You mean the thousands of miles not located right next to the ever changing Mississippi delta? What about it?


Thanks for calling me an idiot.


The estimated jobs lost had the United States stayed in the Paris Accords....thought you had been paying attention to that, but whatever, I understand. Anything Trump does = WRONG and anything YOU say = right. I'll agree with you, only if you want me to do so Kirkland.

Just because Donald Trump says something doesn't make it true. There are no millions of projected job losses if American stays in the Paris agreement. Quite the opposite. Clean energy means huge amounts of new well paying jobs. Solar energy already employs nearly three times as many Americans as are employed in the US oil and gas industries.

It wasn't trump who came out with it idiot it was independent studies

Show me these independent studies. I bet you can't.

Dude are you crazy they have been all over the news and papers are you that insane?

[El Kabong]

Clean energy means huge amounts of new well paying jobs. Solar energy already employs nearly three times as many Americans as are employed in the US oil and gas industries.

Think that has anything to do with the moratorium on drilling? Building new refineries? Government subsidies of "green" energy? I'm not saying the government doesn't also chip in on oil and natural gas (natural gas, also very clean).


Where do you get the materials needed for building "green" energy plants be they wind or solar? Steel and carbon fiber reinforced plastics.....how do you get those things? How are those made? How efficient is it to produce those things? How efficient is it to produce those things WITHOUT fossil fuels?


Yes, Yes, I know we're all going to die Anthropogenic Climate Change, yes, yes......we should be so lucky

[Kirkland Laing]

Clean energy means huge amounts of new well paying jobs. Solar energy already employs nearly three times as many Americans as are employed in the US oil and gas industries.

Think that has anything to do with the moratorium on drilling? Building new refineries? Government subsidies of "green" energy? I'm not saying the government doesn't also chip in on oil and natural gas (natural gas, also very clean).


Where do you get the materials needed for building "green" energy plants be they wind or solar? Steel and carbon fiber reinforced plastics.....how do you get those things? How are those made? How efficient is it to produce those things? How efficient is it to produce those things WITHOUT fossil fuels?


Yes, Yes, I know we're all going to die Anthropogenic Climate Change, yes, yes......we should be so lucky

There no moratorium on drilling. There's a moratorium on giving away huge chunks of state owned land for free to the oil companies as a. the Obama administration wanted payment for them at market rates but the poil companies wanted to continue state socialist subsidies/giveaways and b. they're just stockpiling land, they're only currently drilling on about 5% of the land they already have rights to drill on.

Refinery companies don't want to build new refineries. It's much more profitable to operate current refineries at full capacity. There are constant breakdowns and they can crank refining prices right up when there's a production halt somewhere.

One you build those clean energy facilities you can then make steel and any other construction materials with clean energy ad infinitum. It's the magic of the marketplace Lyle. Costs fall dramatically the more things are adopted. Cheaper energy means steel plants and any other plants can put in new equipment that runs on clean energy and pays for itself. And costs continue to go down as clean energy is adopted more and more. Solar electricity is the same price as electricity from coal-fired plants in China and cheaper than coal-fired plants in India. Trump is going to make US forms fall behind foreign firms in adopting and creating new technologies. Even the frigging oil and gas companies, who have big investments in clean energy, told him to stay in the Paris agreement. But he pulled out because with no actual policy agenda at home and not having a clue what he's doing this is one of the few things he can do that he can point to. But it's shooting the country in the foot.