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    Default Re: Ward/Kovalev 2...who wins?

    Quote Originally Posted by erics44 View Post
    lb4lb shouldn't be confused with which are the best boxers

    and I'm about 14 stone myself now so you never know were the extra chub would take me
    What do you think pound for pound means?

    Do you think it means Choco could give Wlad a fight?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by erics44 View Post
    lb4lb shouldn't be confused with which are the best boxers

    and I'm about 14 stone myself now so you never know were the extra chub would take me
    What do you think pound for pound means?

    Do you think it means Choco could give Wlad a fight?
    nope, that's my point

    people are talking about certain boxers being the "best boxer in the world" because they are lb4lb

    but they aren't they best boxers in the world

    not by a long shot
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    Quote Originally Posted by erics44 View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by erics44 View Post
    lb4lb shouldn't be confused with which are the best boxers

    and I'm about 14 stone myself now so you never know were the extra chub would take me
    What do you think pound for pound means?

    Do you think it means Choco could give Wlad a fight?
    nope, that's my point

    people are talking about certain boxers being the "best boxer in the world" because they are lb4lb

    but they aren't they best boxers in the world

    not by a long shot


    Is it that difficult to understand that being a good boxer has nothing to do with size?

    Your original statement was that "the best boxers in the world are the bigger boxers."

    We've already shown you instances where that's simply not true.

    Skill is skill. Size is size. One is independent of the other.

    Leonard was one of the best boxers in history. Better than probably most if not all of the heavyweights in history.

    Yet he wouldn't stand a chance in the ring against a decent heavyweight, even one who's not a good boxer.

    I'm puzzled as to what the confusion still is.

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    Default Re: Ward/Kovalev 2...who wins?

    Because thinking bigger means better is absurd. Let's look at Kovalev considering joining Virgil Hunter

    https://youtu.be/SCjpridYNMI
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    Default Re: Ward/Kovalev 2...who wins?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Swanson View Post
    Because thinking bigger means better is absurd. Let's look at Kovalev considering joing Virgil Hunter

    https://youtu.be/SCjpridYNMI
    Interesting. I could see it happening. Kovalev definitely needs a change of scenery and hunter is a good trainer. It may help him bounce back a bit faster.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TitoFan View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by erics44 View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by erics44 View Post
    lb4lb shouldn't be confused with which are the best boxers

    and I'm about 14 stone myself now so you never know were the extra chub would take me
    What do you think pound for pound means?

    Do you think it means Choco could give Wlad a fight?
    nope, that's my point

    people are talking about certain boxers being the "best boxer in the world" because they are lb4lb

    but they aren't they best boxers in the world

    not by a long shot


    Is it that difficult to understand that being a good boxer has nothing to do with size?

    Your original statement was that "the best boxers in the world are the bigger boxers."

    We've already shown you instances where that's simply not true.

    Skill is skill. Size is size. One is independent of the other.

    Leonard was one of the best boxers in history. Better than probably most if not all of the heavyweights in history.

    Yet he wouldn't stand a chance in the ring against a decent heavyweight, even one who's not a good boxer.

    I'm puzzled as to what the confusion still is.
    if one cricket team would beat another cricket team every time they played them then would they be better at cricket?
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    Default Re: Ward/Kovalev 2...who wins?

    Quote Originally Posted by TitoFan View Post
    great picture

    and really great response, insightful

    anyway, which cricket team is better, the one that won every time or the one that lost?

    even if the one that lost had more skilful cricketers?
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    Default Re: Ward/Kovalev 2...who wins?

    No, hey.... you win the argument.

    Nikolai Valuev was a better boxer than Sugar Ray Leonard because he's bigger.
    Leonard certainly would've never beaten him in the ring, so Valuev is the better boxer.

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