Quote Originally Posted by Gandalf View Post
Quote Originally Posted by Beanz View Post
Quote Originally Posted by Gandalf View Post
Tito, please answer these questions.
a) Would you like to have bum sex with a man?

b) Would you be happy with a council estate neighbor who has 6 children, no father figure, and smokes weed while claiming disability despite having nothing more than a cooked up doctors paper while you dutifully go to work everyday, have no kids and are a dedicated partner?

Please get off the fence and answer these pertinent questions truthfully. Same to you Beanz.
I will answer for you even though neither has fuck all to do with the thread.

a) Not really...but


What does that have to do with anything? Gay people don't want to bum you or other straight people, and many probably have no wish to bum each other.(most lesbians for starters) Plenty of straight men bum their wives and lovers and they have other options, so using your rational they must be even more "abnormal". Many straight men will stick their Johnson in anything including water melons, chopped meat and apple pie so are they "abnormal".


b) I have had some great neighbours and some truly horrendous ones. The worst were those in privately owned houses and the best were those who lived in Council housing. Who cares? It's quite an offensive post though and I will tell you why. It assumes that they are somehow representative of people living on council estates and the disabled. The vast majority of the disabled in this country are genuine. They have died in large numbers over the last few years because of austerity measures imposed by those who think like you. So much so that I have actually seen a blind person with their guide dog having to fight for their allowance so that they could carry on working. It's beyond callous, and the worry of what is a tiny percentage of shysters ripping off the system has seen scores of genuinely disabled people fucked over. Not only throwing out the baby with the bath water but paying medically untrained American companies to overturn doctors decisions and actually cost the tax payer more in overturned appeal decisions, than the money they could have saved if they simply helped more disabled to work.


I am not going to go into great detail but you have said this for years because you seem to have no genuine understanding of what it's like to be disabled or how dearly most disabled people would love to work.


I feel passionately about this because ATOS an American company, declared me unfit to work and I lost my job in the civil service and then the same American company 6 weeks later ruled that I was fit to work and should receive no help.I found work myself by retraining to be a student support worker and funding the qualifications myself. Technically according to most criteria ( my GP and several consultants) I would be considered disabled, but not according to the company the government use to asses. I don't claim disability and never have.

I am not alone there are many much worse off than me and sweeping generalizations like you used above do not help things.
a) Hey, no buts....or do you mean no butts? Either way thank you for confirming that you do think it is somewhat irregular behavior.

b) You are speaking a lot about the disabled there. The fact that she has so many children and no father figure is also problematic too. I have known people who have claimed disability for years and there has been nothing seriously wrong or anything stopping them getting a job. A lot of people don't want to work Beanz and given the choice many wouldn't. I don't think it is offensive to say that. I think many able bodied people given the choice of working or not working would probably prefer not to be working too. You have people with anxiety disorders saying that they cannot work, but are they even getting the CBT they need, have they considered giving up alcohol, have they even looked for a job not dealing with the general public? I have an anxiety disorder, but I get out there and work in front of lots of people. Not sure why this particular woman would be getting a free pass to do nothing, while others have to earn money then pay their taxes towards her lifestyle choices.

Before you call me a selfish Tory, I am obviously not a selfish Tory, I just think society is about everyone working hard and making better choices together. It isn't just about giving to people no questions asked. Obviously more serious conditions like having brain damage, or missing limbs complicates issues and I am far more understanding. I am not callous, just quite aware that some take the mickey as with teenage Mums and some on disability.

In terms of what is going on with the buildings around the UK. Well, it is quite shocking. What kind of country do you have going on there? No money but 1.5 billion to buy a handful of DUP votes? There should be an immediate election to get this sorted once and for all. The public should be in outrage and protesting about the buying of DUP votes while people around the country are put in danger and told 'There is no money tree'. The Tories are done.
Bollocks.

You can't even debate anymore Miles you have turned into an intellectual minnow. There is no co-relation to me not wanting to have bum sex and you considering Gay people to be abnormal. You have just completely ignored the salient points in the sentences following because they prove your premise to be terminally flawed. You have also just demonstrated exactly how lacking in empathy and self centered you are in your insistence on reducing disability to an excuse to scrounge. Why would you imagine i might choose to speak about the disabled in my reply to you?


Think about it.


Could it be perhaps because I am disabled or the fact that I am a carer for someone who is disabled and yet still work, or maybe it has something to do with working with disabled students to help them get a job. There are quite a lot of reasons there that I might find your attitude tiresome. I know that many people find it very uncomfortable to discuss or even acknowledge, and it's not like my entire forum posting revolves around discussing it. It is though a fact of life and something I can't log out of when I am not posting. The whole "poor life choices" thing is disgustingly offensive, way more so than somebody calling you a cunt. It is just another way of you saying I don't want to look at or acknowledge someone different . It's exactly the same blame culture that the Tories employ.