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    Default Re: Twin Towers WTC v Grenfell Tower

    Quote Originally Posted by Gandalf View Post
    Your condition is an inflammation and fusing of the joints in the spine. Your inflammation is likely caused by age, malnutrition and toxins. My friend has exactly that and swears that it has made a huge difference. A very smart fellow who knows his lifestyle stuff. He no longer needs prescription medications. He turned me onto it knowing my ominous body condition. You are likely mineral deficient, most people are. There are ways to improve your heart too. Less anger would do it wonders!

    I am registered disabled against my will, but it is what it is. Don't have a disabled sticker in my car or anything, but the government says I am until I am proven healthy for 5 years. Not much I can do about that really.
    You could not be more wrong. Please don't lecture me on a condition that all my siblings bar one live with. Their diets are incredibly well managed and have been since birth. It has not stopped their spines fusing. Your die in comparison and by your own admission is a car crash. Supplements are not the answer.

    What is your disability then?
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    Do you know what this has nothing to do with Grenfell Tower which still dominates the headlines here and rightfully so. Many of the residents have still not been rehoused. Take your disdain for those living on council estates and your insistence that people are disabled because of lifestyle choices and start a new thread.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beanz View Post
    Do you know what this has nothing to do with Grenfell Tower which still dominates the headlines here and rightfully so. Many of the residents have still not been rehoused. Take your disdain for those living on council estates and your insistence that people are disabled because of lifestyle choices and start a new thread.
    Ah yes....behold berating a cancer survivor for not being empathetic enough to the plight of the poor.


    I bet the view is great from THAT moral high ground

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    Quote Originally Posted by El Kabong View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Beanz View Post
    Do you know what this has nothing to do with Grenfell Tower which still dominates the headlines here and rightfully so. Many of the residents have still not been rehoused. Take your disdain for those living on council estates and your insistence that people are disabled because of lifestyle choices and start a new thread.
    Ah yes....behold berating a cancer survivor for not being empathetic enough to the plight of the poor.


    I bet the view is great from THAT moral high ground
    Nice Lyle. I may be mistaken, but I thought that Miles didn't have chemo or drugs or any other treatment because what he thought might be cancer turned out not to be. Despite that I can remember telling you and Brock to lay off him a while back. I am not taking the moral high ground at all, there are other posters here with AS and I can assure it is incredibly painful every day but I am quite aware it is not cancer. They prescribed my NSAIDS to take and morphine patches to wear but I no longer use them because they make it hard to work. The disabled and the poor are often the same group and you just sound like a heartless bastard all thru this thread. In this country there are numerous cases of people being diagnosed with terminal cancer and then being found fit for work by private American companies insisting they are fit to work. Many, many of them dies within days of being found fit to work. That is why your politics stink. Narrow minded thinking in which money trumps decent values costs lives. Those poor people from Grenfell are dead because profit won over decency.
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    You might want to save those words for someone who is going to bother reading them or responding to them....I've told you already I'm NOT conversing with you anymore. So you take your butthurt and you go elsewhere ok? Ok buh-bye

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    Default Re: Twin Towers WTC v Grenfell Tower

    Quote Originally Posted by Gandalf View Post
    Your condition is an inflammation and fusing of the joints in the spine. Your inflammation is likely caused by age, malnutrition and toxins. My friend has exactly that and swears that it has made a huge difference. A very smart fellow who knows his lifestyle stuff. He no longer needs prescription medications.
    There are levels of severity to all illnesses/conditions. Just because your mate said his voodoo works a treat doesn't mean it's gonna make a jot of difference to some cunt diagnosed with the "same" condition that permanently needs a walking stick(s) to maintain balance, a mechanical bed to be able to lay down and get up, bathroom aids to use a toilet and sink, home conversions and an inabilty to lift a kettle, butter bread or turn a tap on until their prescription medications have kicked in.

    If you want to know what it's like for some raspberry's with ankylosing spondylitis - When you wake up in the morning, instead of going to work, stay in bed, piss and shit yourself then lay there for 6 hours, have about a hundred goes at rolling out the bed until you finally achieve it, hopefully not breaking your wrist or dislocating a shoulder from the fall, then lie on the floor for another 6 hours praying you had a gun to end the torture because you're so pathetic you can't drag yourself upright.

    Then the next morning - piss yourself whilst walking to the toilet and see how happy/relieved you feel at not having to experience the horror of yesterday.

    And remember you're doing all this without constantly being in agnonsing, paralysing, pain.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gandalf View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Gandalf View Post
    Your condition is an inflammation and fusing of the joints in the spine. Your inflammation is likely caused by age, malnutrition and toxins. My friend has exactly that and swears that it has made a huge difference. A very smart fellow who knows his lifestyle stuff. He no longer needs prescription medications.
    There are levels of severity to all illnesses/conditions. Just because your mate said his voodoo works a treat doesn't mean it's gonna make a jot of difference to some cunt diagnosed with the "same" condition that permanently needs a walking stick(s) to maintain balance, a mechanical bed to be able to lay down and get up, bathroom aids to use a toilet and sink, home conversions and an inabilty to lift a kettle, butter bread or turn a tap on until their prescription medications have kicked in.

    If you want to know what it's like for some raspberry's with ankylosing spondylitis - When you wake up in the morning, instead of going to work, stay in bed, piss and shit yourself then lay there for 6 hours, have about a hundred goes at rolling out the bed until you finally achieve it, hopefully not breaking your wrist or dislocating a shoulder from the fall, then lie on the floor for another 6 hours praying you had a gun to end the torture because you're so pathetic you can't drag yourself upright.

    Then the next morning - piss yourself whilst walking to the toilet and see how happy/relieved you feel at not having to experience the horror of yesterday.

    And remember you're doing all this without constantly being in agnonsing, paralysing, pain.
    My friend has told me what it is like. The constant need for pain meds and anti inflammatories. How exercise is no longer possible. How sleeping became a nightmare. It worked. Life is still more limited but relieved of pain, sleeping better etc. If the spine has already fused then you will have a hard time without surgery, but if you catch it early enough and give your body the nutrition we do not get from diet alone because most of our food is depleted (even the good stuff) it can be relieved and controlled. If it works then good. If not don't ever mention it again. There is nothing voodoo about minerals that you don't have enough of. They get the body working in symbiosis again. The disease happens because your body isn't working as it should. It's likely a deficiency. Everything happens for a reason. Most disease is a deficiency. Mine certainly was. There is a reason the Royals live so long and healthily. They likely have information that we all need. No bread, no oils, organic and get your nutrients on top.
    Your arrogance, ignorance and naivety seemingly knows no bounds.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beanz View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by El Kabong View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Beanz View Post
    Do you know what this has nothing to do with Grenfell Tower which still dominates the headlines here and rightfully so. Many of the residents have still not been rehoused. Take your disdain for those living on council estates and your insistence that people are disabled because of lifestyle choices and start a new thread.
    Ah yes....behold berating a cancer survivor for not being empathetic enough to the plight of the poor.


    I bet the view is great from THAT moral high ground
    Nice Lyle. I may be mistaken, but I thought that Miles didn't have chemo or drugs or any other treatment because what he thought might be cancer turned out not to be. Despite that I can remember telling you and Brock to lay off him a while back. I am not taking the moral high ground at all, there are other posters here with AS and I can assure it is incredibly painful every day but I am quite aware it is not cancer. They prescribed my NSAIDS to take and morphine patches to wear but I no longer use them because they make it hard to work. The disabled and the poor are often the same group and you just sound like a heartless bastard all thru this thread. In this country there are numerous cases of people being diagnosed with terminal cancer and then being found fit for work by private American companies insisting they are fit to work. Many, many of them dies within days of being found fit to work. That is why your politics stink. Narrow minded thinking in which money trumps decent values costs lives. Those poor people from Grenfell are dead because profit won over decency.
    Who would be stupid enough to follow the evil advice of US insurance squads? That some stupid shir right there.

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    Maybe brockton will take the time to read and respond to your posts....not me, I no longer care what you have to say

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    Quote Originally Posted by El Kabong View Post
    Maybe brockton will take the time to read and respond to your posts....not me, I no longer care what you have to say
    Ok. Thanks Lyle.

    Was really hanging out for a reply from you there. My day seems incomplete now. You are like the missing roughage in a constipated person's diet. You may taste like shit but you sure are good for us. Your bible thumping bit where you went all Moses, was that not conversing then, you know the


    "Behold, berating a cancer survivor for not being empathtic enough to the plight of the poor"


    bit

    or the bit about Brockton responding to my posts


    Was that not just a teensy ikkle bit like conversing ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Beanz View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beanz View Post
    Do you know what this has nothing to do with Grenfell Tower which still dominates the headlines here and rightfully so. Many of the residents have still not been rehoused. Take your disdain for those living on council estates and your insistence that people are disabled because of lifestyle choices and start a new thread.
    Ah yes....behold berating a cancer survivor for not being empathetic enough to the plight of the poor.


    I bet the view is great from THAT moral high ground
    Nice Lyle. I may be mistaken, but I thought that Miles didn't have chemo or drugs or any other treatment because what he thought might be cancer turned out not to be. Despite that I can remember telling you and Brock to lay off him a while back. I am not taking the moral high ground at all, there are other posters here with AS and I can assure it is incredibly painful every day but I am quite aware it is not cancer. They prescribed my NSAIDS to take and morphine patches to wear but I no longer use them because they make it hard to work. The disabled and the poor are often the same group and you just sound like a heartless bastard all thru this thread. In this country there are numerous cases of people being diagnosed with terminal cancer and then being found fit for work by private American companies insisting they are fit to work. Many, many of them dies within days of being found fit to work. That is why your politics stink. Narrow minded thinking in which money trumps decent values costs lives. Those poor people from Grenfell are dead because profit won over decency.
    Who would be stupid enough to follow the evil advice of US insurance squads? That some stupid shir right there.
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    Fuckin ell, how bad were your life choices to get cancer?!

    Mine just made me loose my hair and put on a bit of weight.
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    Seems like there is dispute about the numbers

    "Newly formed Grenfell Tower residents’ groups have begun several parallel investigative attempts to compile lists of the victims and survivors of the London fire disaster, amid ongoing concern that the police and council have been slow to release information about the death toll.
    Sajad Jamalvatan, a biomedical engineering student who lived on the third floor of the block, has established a Whatsapp community of 86 families who escaped from the block, calling the group Grenfell United. From conversations with these residents over the past fortnight he is sceptical about the police death toll of 79 and believes that the actual number is likely to be above 120...."


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    You get disability forced on you over there??

    Over on this side it's a pretty tedious process, as it probably should be, given the amount of Social Security fraud going on nowadays. Cancer survivors are normally not given disability benefits. It has to be a debilitating condition which does not allow you to work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gandalf View Post
    My friend is convinced, but fair enough. Only trying to help. Doctors don't know what causes it and only have meds. Don't rule it out too hastily, but up to you. You can look into it or not.

    My disability is just the old cancer. I don't think it is a disability myself being caught early, but for 5 years it is classed as such and I get support for my medical care. I work and live like normal. There is still the potential MG worry with my eye and fatigue but for now I am normal and don't consider myself disabled. I won't stop. I want to get to 20 years and retire. Stop then.
    I thought the scans said you were clear ?
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