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    Lots of outrage coming from American fans/journos

    Did Teddy have Pac whitewashing it? Last I saw was Spicoli post 5-1 to Pac when BoxNation had it 4-2 to Horn.
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    I thought Pac won comfortably but whatever. I've seen worse scores in other fights.

    Pac was the more effective puncher.

    Although to his discredit, he had the gall to mention the headbutts during the fight, accidental as they may have been.

    He'll probably need close to 20 stitches on each side of his head.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TitoFan View Post
    I thought Pac won comfortably but whatever. I've seen worse scores in other fights.

    Pac was the more effective puncher.

    Although to his discredit, he had the gall to mention the headbutts during the fight, accidental as they may have been.

    He'll probably need close to 20 stitches on each side of his head.
    And a cold

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Swanson View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by TitoFan View Post
    I thought Pac won comfortably but whatever. I've seen worse scores in other fights.

    Pac was the more effective puncher.

    Although to his discredit, he had the gall to mention the headbutts during the fight, accidental as they may have been.

    He'll probably need close to 20 stitches on each side of his head.
    And a cold

    And a cold too?? Boy... to add insult to injury. That Pac stops at nothing to make excuses, don't he?

    The gall of mentioning that the headbutts may have bothered him.

    Two matching 6-inch gashes on both sides of his head? PFFT..... suck it up, son.

    After all, how distracting can it be to have your heads crashing every other exchange during a boxing match?

    Some people have no intestinal fortitude.....

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    https://twitter.com/CompuBox?ref_src...Ctwgr%5Eauthor
    compubox has pac man outlanding horn 182-92 :S amazing really not the way i saw it but whatever.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by palmerq View Post
    https://twitter.com/CompuBox?ref_src...Ctwgr%5Eauthor
    compubox has pac man outlanding horn 182-92 :S amazing really not the way i saw it but whatever.....
    ... and Manny out landed Horn in 11 of 12 rounds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by palmerq View Post
    https://twitter.com/CompuBox?ref_src...Ctwgr%5Eauthor
    compubox has pac man outlanding horn 182-92 :S amazing really not the way i saw it but whatever.....
    Those stats were a joke. I don't believe for a second that Pac outlanded Horn 2:1. I never trust compubox. It's an awful way to judge anything. They are basically worthless.

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    It was a close fight, no doubt, but Pacquaio deserved the win. I'd have it 6-6 with the 9th being a 10-8 for Manny. 7-5 for Manny is also very reasonable. A few rounds were nearly a toss up. Horn was big, dirty, and Pac showed his age. Sad to see. I'd say Horn is rough and all heart, but he'd be hard pressed to beat guys like Collazo, Berto, or Algeri.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post
    Lots of outrage coming from American fans/journos

    Did Teddy have Pac whitewashing it? Last I saw was Spicoli post 5-1 to Pac when BoxNation had it 4-2 to Horn.
    Brother you're looking at the prelim fight . Unless I'm totally tripping but I'll check . Manny won this on simply the cleaner punches for me, not close. He took damage and got roughed up but he boxed better form in there. BoxNation is probably smoking something

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spicoli View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post
    Lots of outrage coming from American fans/journos

    Did Teddy have Pac whitewashing it? Last I saw was Spicoli post 5-1 to Pac when BoxNation had it 4-2 to Horn.
    Brother you're looking at the prelim fight . Unless I'm totally tripping but I'll check . Manny won this on simply the cleaner punches for me, not close. He took damage and got roughed up but he boxed better form in there. BoxNation is probably smoking something
    Hey, I don't care who won, just wondering what the broadcast influence was, as I always thought it was close either way.

    Listening to an American phone-in now, loads of fans are saying Horn won and they were listening to Teddy/ESPN.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Spicoli View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post
    Lots of outrage coming from American fans/journos

    Did Teddy have Pac whitewashing it? Last I saw was Spicoli post 5-1 to Pac when BoxNation had it 4-2 to Horn.
    Brother you're looking at the prelim fight . Unless I'm totally tripping but I'll check . Manny won this on simply the cleaner punches for me, not close. He took damage and got roughed up but he boxed better form in there. BoxNation is probably smoking something
    Hey, I don't care who won, just wondering what the broadcast influence was, as I always thought it was close either way.

    Listening to an American phone-in now, loads of fans are saying Horn won and they were listening to Teddy/ESPN.
    I do think a lot of people were heavily influenced by Atlas. He was so pro Pac. Bradley said in the last round that he thought the fight was closer than what Atlas thought.

    My main frustration is that among boxing fans I have seen it pretty split. Among non boxing fans (including casual fans), Pac was the unanimous winner. Hence why I think that they were heavily influenced by Atlas. Fat dan also thought it was a terrible decision which is alright because he generally scores pretty badly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Spicoli View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post
    Lots of outrage coming from American fans/journos

    Did Teddy have Pac whitewashing it? Last I saw was Spicoli post 5-1 to Pac when BoxNation had it 4-2 to Horn.
    Brother you're looking at the prelim fight . Unless I'm totally tripping but I'll check . Manny won this on simply the cleaner punches for me, not close. He took damage and got roughed up but he boxed better form in there. BoxNation is probably smoking something
    Hey, I don't care who won, just wondering what the broadcast influence was, as I always thought it was close either way.

    Listening to an American phone-in now, loads of fans are saying Horn won and they were listening to Teddy/ESPN.
    Teddy went on rants with sequels about the bad decision if that tells you. Clear Manny win. Tim Bradley praised Horn all out but when asked had Manny winning. Tim also defended Horns effort when Stephen A. ignorantly smashed him prior and post fight so balanced network I suppose . Ya don't need a blatant robbery label to know a shat call when ya see it to me.
    Manny by a few points and I think judges got caught up in emotion, thrill or worse. Well at least he won't have to be Spences or Crawfords stepping stone now

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    I watched it in Russian (a language I don't speak), and could see that there was a real chance that Horn was gonna get the win.

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    Early on I actually had it for horn. It wasn't Horn being some kind of rough housing juggernaut, as much as it was many seemingly under performing from what people expected. The high guard stance that says I don't really trust my reflexes anymore and the half fleeing almost backwards jab. Manny did start to land smarter punches after he learned he couldn't out tough this kid at his age and that the kid was wearing himself out the window of opportunity was left open wider. I thought he turned it around and that the kid was ready to go. I still wanted to believe they werent going to screw him despite the very pro aussie crowd (Both fighters entered to AC/DC hahahah) The cheering every time horn connected with a flail... and of course not much of any admonishment to horn for hitting on he break, headlocks, head butts, stiff arming, or following through with his shoulder.. or the mma sweep that sent manny down. Tough crowd. With every of of these controversies, i see less and less people ponying up for Septembers ppv.
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    Eight years since Manny stopped anyone and closing the show against someone who looked like a young SMW on the night was never going to be likely. The ref warning he was about to stop it after Manny showing glimpses of what he used to be in round 9 but Manny was never going to stop him at this stage of his great career. Blatant head bollocks and Horns rough edges aside it was close - ish but I thought Manny took it. A case of the wideness of one the scorecards being the robbery more than the result.
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