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    It was a close fight, no doubt, but Pacquaio deserved the win. I'd have it 6-6 with the 9th being a 10-8 for Manny. 7-5 for Manny is also very reasonable. A few rounds were nearly a toss up. Horn was big, dirty, and Pac showed his age. Sad to see. I'd say Horn is rough and all heart, but he'd be hard pressed to beat guys like Collazo, Berto, or Algeri.

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    The Atlas commentary was probably one of the most biased and turgid i have ever heard in a boxing match, he hated Horn from round 1. It certainly has influenced some of the ridiculous comments made by celebrities who were wrong ( Samuel L Jackson and Kobe Bryant who are screaming robbery ). Lennox Lewis should know better. There was no robbery here, Pacman got old and Horn was too tough for him. No way compubox got those stats right. Horn was with Pacquiao all the way in that fight except for Round 9. I'm surprised Horn won, i'm surprised he even went the distance, but then again i'm not surprised Manny Pacquiao is done and dusted at age 38. 115-113 seems fair to me.

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    Bob arum is behind all of this..he makes me sick.

    He loves a rematch with Top rank fighters..he is milking it for all it's worth.

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    Even though I thought Pac won I'm most bothered by the punch stats. The suggestion Horn only landed 92 punches is absurd. That's not even close. That's less than 8 punches per round. It doesn't reflect the fight at all.

    This was not a good defensive fight by either. It was a clumsy slug it out war. The punch stats should reflect that.

    Because these numbers and the scores are wrong instead of talking about a clumsy exciting battle we are talking about punch stats and robbery.

    The night should have ended with Pac having his hand raised and later saying in the press conference he doesn't really have it anymore and he will retire. Then people interested in fighting the best could fight for that belt.

    A rematch doesn't do anything for saying who is the best at 147. That's what championship fights should be about, who is the best. Not a lifetime achievement award, not an award for effort.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Swanson View Post
    Even though I thought Pac won I'm most bothered by the punch stats. The suggestion Horn only landed 92 punches is absurd. That's not even close. That's less than 8 punches per round. It doesn't reflect the fight at all.

    This was not a good defensive fight by either. It was a clumsy slug it out war. The punch stats should reflect that.

    Because these numbers and the scores are wrong instead of talking about a clumsy exciting battle we are talking about punch stats and robbery.

    The night should have ended with Pac having his hand raised and later saying in the press conference he doesn't really have it anymore and he will retire. Then people interested in fighting the best could fight for that belt.

    A rematch doesn't do anything for saying who is the best at 147. That's what championship fights should be about, who is the best. Not a lifetime achievement award, not an award for effort.
    I don't believe those punch stats at all, totally absurd count and wrong IMO.

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    It had excitement but it was a clumsy awkward fight and PAC was a bit hesitant. No point for a rematch but that's up to money not us. It's strange though my top two boxing heroes, Manny, fighting like this with this result and this farce of my buy Floyd doing Connor it's just hard for me to fathom. My coworker was cool, he saw I was upset and did not ride me in anyway. I'm gonna thank him for that cause he could have made my life much more painful. It's sad this era of boxing 🥊 is coming to a close. Floyd and manny gave us some great great enjoyment I wish I could give them both a big hug

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    Anyone know what horn and manny weighed in the ring. I know the weigh in but I don't know weights at the fight .

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    For what it's worth I had Horn winning, he faded big time towards the end and the old Manny would have stopped him relatively easy.

    It was a close fight and one that was always going to draw criticism, Manny gets the decision and they have gone with the champ/legend, Horn wins and it's a typical loaded score card in the favour of the hone fighter.

    I actually liked the way Buncey had a big rant about the pactards after the fight, the Pac fans were hurting and were not happy with the decision but a robbery it was not.

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    Funny thing is even those youtube channels that are legitimate Pacquiao haters are in unison that this was a robbery. I guess we can draw conclusion with that, they have no dog in that fight. I also am curious how much the fighters weighed at fight night. Horn looked like a junior middleweight standing next to Pac and yet. PAC almost stopped him in the 9th. Its hard to hate on Horn though, seems like a amiable and humble guy, compared to most fighters, i wish him the best.
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