Pac vs Horn..do we care?

[Master]

as much as I appreciate the sentiment that ain't gunna help, and I hate Yogi Bear

@palmerq knows I am right.

[palmerq]

as much as I appreciate the sentiment that ain't gunna help, and I hate Yogi Bear

@palmerq knows I am right.

I swear that the posts that master shall post, shall be the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth, so help me mods.

[Ron Swanson]

I don't normally like Roach but he come off well in this interview
https://youtu.be/W4SXl5r3I6o

[pacfan]

Geeeez, you guys are full of ---- The fight wasn't shown here live so I came and listening to you fellas mostly the usual Manny "haters" & I thought Pac really lost until there was an uproar on soc-med and take note, coming from people like Lenox Lewis, Tyson. Lesson learned - never believe a word the snotty kids here say... Now, read this and learn, it sums up the what really happened yesterday:
https://twitter.com/QPSmedia/status/881380181499297792

Well anywayz, congrats, @Andre

[palmerq]

I don't normally like Roach but he come off well in this interview
https://youtu.be/W4SXl5r3I6o

he really does, good post/video.. i hope they pay him back his 6 rolls of tape too :S

[powerpuncher]

Here's the thing. I have read multiple people having Horn winning. I've seen multiple draws too. There are definitely more who have Pac winning, but that's why this isn't a robbery. There are obviously tons of boxing fans who have scored many fights and saw Horn do well.

Most of the people who have Pac winning were celebrities who rarely watch boxing. I had not problem with the decision and I wouldn't have minded if Pac won. Close fight either way. The thing that is bad for boxing wasn't the decision but that too many boxing personalities (Atlas and fat dan in particular) are making such a big deal about it. They should have been level headed and said it was a fine decision even though they disagreed.

[Ron Swanson]

Here's the thing. I have read multiple people having Horn winning. I've seen multiple draws too. There are definitely more who have Pac winning, but that's why this isn't a robbery. There are obviously tons of boxing fans who have scored many fights and saw Horn do well.

Most of the people who have Pac winning were celebrities who rarely watch boxing. I had not problem with the decision and I wouldn't have minded if Pac won. Close fight either way. The thing that is bad for boxing wasn't the decision but that too many boxing personalities (Atlas and fat dan in particular) are making such a big deal about it. They should have been level headed and said it was a fine decision even though they disagreed.

Agreed. There is a cancer in the sport where there are so many awful reactions. Like Screamin A Smith, this would never happen in the UFC. Not true at all. Bad decisions happen in sports with judging. The difference is in the UFC Dana White bitches about the decision and says there will be an immediate rematch. Problem solved. Here there is a rematch clause. If Pac wants it he can get his revenge. Nothing to be in an uproar about. But boxing fans don't seem to know any other way to be anymore.

You can see it so clearly in the whole Floyd/Conor bank job. UFC fans are excited. Boxing fans are furious.

Boycott this, boycott that. Perhaps just have an honest dialogue rather than getting so worked up. Call a bank job a bank job. Call a wrong decision a wrong decision. No need for the drama of calling a disputable decision a robbery. That only lessens the value when real robberies happen "yeah, that's boxing, always robberies". It's just not true. And in this case it's not true. I had Pac winning and I would be hard pressed to find 7 rounds I could give to Horn. But that doesn't mean there aren't 7 that could be.

We just got a much better fight than 9 out of 10 of us expected. And on basically free tv. Enjoy it.

[Spicoli]

Here's the thing. I have read multiple people having Horn winning. I've seen multiple draws too. There are definitely more who have Pac winning, but that's why this isn't a robbery. There are obviously tons of boxing fans who have scored many fights and saw Horn do well.

Most of the people who have Pac winning were celebrities who rarely watch boxing. I had not problem with the decision and I wouldn't have minded if Pac won. Close fight either way. The thing that is bad for boxing wasn't the decision but that too many boxing personalities (Atlas and fat dan in particular) are making such a big deal about it. They should have been level headed and said it was a fine decision even though they disagreed.

Agreed. There is a cancer in the sport where there are so many awful reactions. Like Screamin A Smith, this would never happen in the UFC. Not true at all. Bad decisions happen in sports with judging. The difference is in the UFC Dana White bitches about the decision and says there will be an immediate rematch. Problem solved. Here there is a rematch clause. If Pac wants it he can get his revenge. Nothing to be in an uproar about. But boxing fans don't seem to know any other way to be anymore.

You can see it so clearly in the whole Floyd/Conor bank job. UFC fans are excited. Boxing fans are furious.

Boycott this, boycott that. Perhaps just have an honest dialogue rather than getting so worked up. Call a bank job a bank job. Call a wrong decision a wrong decision. No need for the drama of calling a disputable decision a robbery. That only lessens the value when real robberies happen "yeah, that's boxing, always robberies". It's just not true. And in this case it's not true. I had Pac winning and I would be hard pressed to find 7 rounds I could give to Horn. But that doesn't mean there aren't 7 that could be.

We just got a much better fight than 9 out of 10 of us expected. And on basically free tv. Enjoy it.

I think the biggest mistake was having Stephen A there as a town crier in the first place. They didn't put him there for his boxing knowledge and experience, which isn't the case in Teddy or Fat Dan, but for his cross over network face and ability to frankly talk the loudest shat. Really nothing more. Teddy has always called what he perceives terrible decisions on live tv right up to the point of confronting State commissioners and airing out the errors of appointed judges and blown calls etc. and he's done it both pro and con involving the very same fighters. Now the term 'robbery' is thrown around far too often just as 'great' is but what we need fewer of are network lapdogs who try to walk a balance beam of 'well I dunno, it could have gone either way I guess so yeh' instead of taking definitive stands to what they watched and experienced live. There are robberies that occur and there are fights that hinge on 1 point either way but personally I cannot see either case here but I saw a terrible decision. Atlas doesn't give two shats how many retweets or 'likes' he gets.

[THE THIRD MAN]

First of all Stephen A Smith requires immediate psychiatric evaluation, his ranting and raving was borderline insanity. He was wrong on every count. Teddy Atlas was against Horn from the outset, he wants to see the Pacquiao of 2009 and that ship has long since sailed. Pacman is 38 and he has been through some wars, it's really over for him. I shudder to think what Errol Spence jr would do to him let alone Horn. I really don't understand all the fuss? Atlas is pissed off because he knows a Spence V Pacman fight is the bigger draw card, but Manny isn't going to beat Spence or Thurmann, not now, not at age 38. Sure, let's see a rematch with Manny and Horn, but if Manny couldn't put Horn away in round 9 i don't see him putting him away in fight number 2? Pacman has gone 8 years without a KO! Then what?