Victor Ortiz returns..

[Hulk]

Honestly though, I thought that Ortiz was going to become great. He has really good power and seemed like am he had solid skills. The thing is that he did really well against Maidana but ended up quitting.

I thought he was outboxing Berto in the 2nd fight..then he just fell apart.

Ditto. He's gotten where he quits at the first sign of trouble or real resistance. You wanna see a massacre then put him in with old Margarito or Rios. That would be pitiful to watch. Ortiz has all the tools to be a top contender/titlist, but not the strong mind or guts for it. If he wins this then I'd say a match with Brunson, Collazo, or Cintron would be best for him.

[imp]

Can you think of any other fighters that had there jaw broken and were still able to compete and regain their past glory?

When Victor Broke his jaw it changed him mentally as a fighter...it's a huge injury and the most targeted area...are we too harsh on him?

[Master]

Can you think of any other fighters that had there jaw broken and were still able to compete and regain their past glory?

When Victor Broke his jaw it changed him mentally as a fighter...it's a huge injury and the most targeted area...are we too harsh on him?

Ortiz quit against Maidana before his loss to Victor.

[Alpha]

Can you think of any other fighters that had there jaw broken and were still able to compete and regain their past glory?

When Victor Broke his jaw it changed him mentally as a fighter...it's a huge injury and the most targeted area...are we too harsh on him?

Ortiz quit against Maidana before his loss to Victor.

Yea Ortiz' jaw was broken in the Lopez fight. Ali did pretty good after the 1st Norton fight.

[Spicoli]

Can you think of any other fighters that had there jaw broken and were still able to compete and regain their past glory?

When Victor Broke his jaw it changed him mentally as a fighter...it's a huge injury and the most targeted area...are we too harsh on him?

Ortiz quit against Maidana before his loss to Victor.

Yea Ortiz' jaw was broken in the Lopez fight. Ali did pretty good after the 1st Norton fight.

Immediately went to Morrison war with Joe Hipp. Think Whitaker finished vs Tito with a break though he was at end. Mercer v Cooper? Sure looked like it.

This card is tonight on FS1. Odd start time of 6pm here.

[TitoFan]

I think Victor.... and the image I get is him getting all kissy-poo with Floyd just before Floyd knocked him on his ass.
Some images are hard to shake.

[ykdadamaja]

Ortiz is a quitter. No one is going to pay to see him unless it is in a guy's hometown and his friends and family make up half the crowd.

[imp]

Anyone know the how the bad blood between Rios and Ortiz started?

I heard there were rumours that Victor tried it on with his wife or something..what's the real story?

[Alpha]

Looks like Ortiz vs John Molina Jr is set for last September.

Should be an entertaining brawl.

[palmerq]

Can you think of any other fighters that had there jaw broken and were still able to compete and regain their past glory?

When Victor Broke his jaw it changed him mentally as a fighter...it's a huge injury and the most targeted area...are we too harsh on him?

arthur abraham had his jaw broken v the very competent edison miranda and came back to regain his past glory in that same fight... although i guess you could argue miranda could have got the decision... but abraham beat him good in the rematch

[Alpha]

Honestly though, I thought that Ortiz was going to become great. He has really good power and seemed like am he had solid skills. The thing is that he did really well against Maidana but ended up quitting.

I thought he was outboxing Berto in the 2nd fight..then he just fell apart.

Ditto. He's gotten where he quits at the first sign of trouble or real resistance. You wanna see a massacre then put him in with old Margarito or Rios. That would be pitiful to watch. Ortiz has all the tools to be a top contender/titlist, but not the strong mind or guts for it. If he wins this then I'd say a match with Brunson, Collazo, or Cintron would be best for him.

Collazo already knocked his a** out. I think he could make a few good paydays fighting on the outskirts of the division but as soon as he faces a contender it'll all come crumbling down again. There are some fights to be made though like the Rios one.