Adrien Broner is done as an elite fighter!

[walrus]

How much are broners betwixt fights and training antics effecting his ability to perform in the ring? Any type of substance abuse alters brain chemistry. Does he have it in him to stop the craziness? He got the dui, he was acting suicidal, brandishing a firearm the dude ain't thinking clearly. There are some in sports who perform at the top level even with a habit but most don't. If broner were to completely turn things around maybe he could regain his old glory. I wouldn't bet on it but I do wonder how if he could make a clean comeback.

He is unstable. The large ego he has may be a mental illness. He does stuff for attention. He is just not doing it positively by training to be a great fighter. Skills he does have, but his mind will not let him escape his assholery.

Definitely and it's a shame. As much of an ass he is he has skill and a can take a shot. He's one of those love to hate boxers and could be a hell of a draw if he weren't stinkin up the place

[Alpha]

He needs to grow up already. It may already be too late. He needs to drop all the yes men, get a new corner and trainer. Too many voices in that corner between rounds and no one actually giving him solid advise to change the game plan.

[Hulk]

He needs to grow up already. It may already be too late. He needs to drop all the yes men, get a new corner and trainer. Too many voices in that corner between rounds and no one actually giving him solid advise to change the game plan.

I think he likes those yes men to feed his fragile ego. Broner is one of these guys who knows it all and isn't going to change. He's as good as he's gonna be, which is pretty good, but not the best in the world.

[walrus]

I remember one fight he was yelling at his corner, idiot

[ykdadamaja]

He needs to grow up already. It may already be too late. He needs to drop all the yes men, get a new corner and trainer. Too many voices in that corner between rounds and no one actually giving him solid advise to change the game plan.

I think he likes those yes men to feed his fragile ego. Broner is one of these guys who knows it all and isn't going to change. He's as good as he's gonna be, which is pretty good, but not the best in the world.

This. He is just who he is. In terms of position in the annals of boxing history, he will be remembered as a Terry Norris or Iran Barkley kinda guy. A good guy who did a thing or two, but just a good guy around greats. Barkley beat Hearns twice, but so what? Terry Norris was a champion for a long while, but even in terms of Sugar Ray or even Mugabi OR EVEN Julian Jackson, Norris is just Norris- a guy we all fought!

[Master]

He needs to grow up already. It may already be too late. He needs to drop all the yes men, get a new corner and trainer. Too many voices in that corner between rounds and no one actually giving him solid advise to change the game plan.

I think he likes those yes men to feed his fragile ego. Broner is one of these guys who knows it all and isn't going to change. He's as good as he's gonna be, which is pretty good, but not the best in the world.

This. He is just who he is. In terms of position in the annals of boxing history, he will be remembered as a Terry Norris or Iran Barkley kinda guy. A good guy who did a thing or two, but just a good guy around greats. Barkley beat Hearns twice, but so what? Terry Norris was a champion for a long while, but even in terms of Sugar Ray or even Mugabi OR EVEN Julian Jackson, Norris is just Norris- a guy we all fought!

Terry Norris was a better fighter than Broner ever will be.

[Alpha]

The thing is if he could only humble himself a little, do a total clean out, re-tool, he could still cause a bit of noise. He ain't going to get over that hump if he remains in his current situation.

[powerpuncher]

Everybody is failing to mention that Broner has had major flaws in his arsenal through his whole career. He has always been the fighter with a ton of talent but average skill at best. He really has no signature win. All of the real names that he fought, he lost to (maidana, porter, Garcia). His best win was probably de Leon who was a smaller fighter and was a semi controversial decision.

Broner is one of those fighters that had the talent to become a superstar but never put it all together.

[ykdadamaja]

He needs to grow up already. It may already be too late. He needs to drop all the yes men, get a new corner and trainer. Too many voices in that corner between rounds and no one actually giving him solid advise to change the game plan.

I think he likes those yes men to feed his fragile ego. Broner is one of these guys who knows it all and isn't going to change. He's as good as he's gonna be, which is pretty good, but not the best in the world.

This. He is just who he is. In terms of position in the annals of boxing history, he will be remembered as a Terry Norris or Iran Barkley kinda guy. A good guy who did a thing or two, but just a good guy around greats. Barkley beat Hearns twice, but so what? Terry Norris was a champion for a long while, but even in terms of Sugar Ray or even Mugabi OR EVEN Julian Jackson, Norris is just Norris- a guy we all fought!

Terry Norris was a better fighter than Broner ever will be.

That we know. But when next to Sugar Ray, Hearns, Duran, Mugabi, Jackson and a few others, Norris is just.... Norris. So too will Broner be. If that!

[Spicoli]

He needs to grow up already. It may already be too late. He needs to drop all the yes men, get a new corner and trainer. Too many voices in that corner between rounds and no one actually giving him solid advise to change the game plan.

I think he likes those yes men to feed his fragile ego. Broner is one of these guys who knows it all and isn't going to change. He's as good as he's gonna be, which is pretty good, but not the best in the world.

This. He is just who he is. In terms of position in the annals of boxing history, he will be remembered as a Terry Norris or Iran Barkley kinda guy. A good guy who did a thing or two, but just a good guy around greats. Barkley beat Hearns twice, but so what? Terry Norris was a champion for a long while, but even in terms of Sugar Ray or even Mugabi OR EVEN Julian Jackson, Norris is just Norris- a guy we all fought!

Ok I'm calling blasphemy . Broner couldn't even carry the hairbrush of Norris. He was a refined boxer puncher who beat solid opposition. Broner lacks essential discipline, basic how to conduct yourself and act like you belong in the room discipline on top of non development and he 'learned' his flaws and they became a part of his fight game. He's just not that good. Norris on the other hand had superb skills but his lack of discipline came when over reacting..hitting guys on the deck etc. His chin was checked more than a few times but the man was riding p4p rankings for quite some time.

[TitoFan]

He needs to grow up already. It may already be too late. He needs to drop all the yes men, get a new corner and trainer. Too many voices in that corner between rounds and no one actually giving him solid advise to change the game plan.

I think he likes those yes men to feed his fragile ego. Broner is one of these guys who knows it all and isn't going to change. He's as good as he's gonna be, which is pretty good, but not the best in the world.

This. He is just who he is. In terms of position in the annals of boxing history, he will be remembered as a Terry Norris or Iran Barkley kinda guy. A good guy who did a thing or two, but just a good guy around greats. Barkley beat Hearns twice, but so what? Terry Norris was a champion for a long while, but even in terms of Sugar Ray or even Mugabi OR EVEN Julian Jackson, Norris is just Norris- a guy we all fought!

Ok I'm calling blasphemy . Broner couldn't even carry the hairbrush of Norris. He was a refined boxer puncher who beat solid opposition. Broner lacks essential discipline, basic how to conduct yourself and act like you belong in the room discipline on top of non development and he 'learned' his flaws and they became a part of his fight game. He's just not that good. Norris on the other hand had superb skills but his lack of discipline came when over reacting..hitting guys on the deck etc. His chin was checked more than a few times but the man was riding p4p rankings for quite some time.

Ditto on that blasphemy assessment.

[ykdadamaja]

He needs to grow up already. It may already be too late. He needs to drop all the yes men, get a new corner and trainer. Too many voices in that corner between rounds and no one actually giving him solid advise to change the game plan.

I think he likes those yes men to feed his fragile ego. Broner is one of these guys who knows it all and isn't going to change. He's as good as he's gonna be, which is pretty good, but not the best in the world.

This. He is just who he is. In terms of position in the annals of boxing history, he will be remembered as a Terry Norris or Iran Barkley kinda guy. A good guy who did a thing or two, but just a good guy around greats. Barkley beat Hearns twice, but so what? Terry Norris was a champion for a long while, but even in terms of Sugar Ray or even Mugabi OR EVEN Julian Jackson, Norris is just Norris- a guy we all fought!

Ok I'm calling blasphemy . Broner couldn't even carry the hairbrush of Norris. He was a refined boxer puncher who beat solid opposition. Broner lacks essential discipline, basic how to conduct yourself and act like you belong in the room discipline on top of non development and he 'learned' his flaws and they became a part of his fight game. He's just not that good. Norris on the other hand had superb skills but his lack of discipline came when over reacting..hitting guys on the deck etc. His chin was checked more than a few times but the man was riding p4p rankings for quite some time.

... It did have a bit of Blasfamy to it, huh? But here me out before the stoning: "That we know (Norris is way better than Broner). But when next to Sugar Ray, Hearns, Duran, Mugabi, Jackson and a few others, Norris is just.... Norris. So too will Broner be. If that!

In fact, next to Mayweather, Garcia, Thurman, Maidana, and even, GASP, Amir Khan, Broner will be just.... Broner!

[TitoFan]

My only problem with this thread is the title.


Adrien Broner is done never made it as an elite fighter!

[Spicoli]

He needs to grow up already. It may already be too late. He needs to drop all the yes men, get a new corner and trainer. Too many voices in that corner between rounds and no one actually giving him solid advise to change the game plan.

I think he likes those yes men to feed his fragile ego. Broner is one of these guys who knows it all and isn't going to change. He's as good as he's gonna be, which is pretty good, but not the best in the world.

This. He is just who he is. In terms of position in the annals of boxing history, he will be remembered as a Terry Norris or Iran Barkley kinda guy. A good guy who did a thing or two, but just a good guy around greats. Barkley beat Hearns twice, but so what? Terry Norris was a champion for a long while, but even in terms of Sugar Ray or even Mugabi OR EVEN Julian Jackson, Norris is just Norris- a guy we all fought!

Ok I'm calling blasphemy . Broner couldn't even carry the hairbrush of Norris. He was a refined boxer puncher who beat solid opposition. Broner lacks essential discipline, basic how to conduct yourself and act like you belong in the room discipline on top of non development and he 'learned' his flaws and they became a part of his fight game. He's just not that good. Norris on the other hand had superb skills but his lack of discipline came when over reacting..hitting guys on the deck etc. His chin was checked more than a few times but the man was riding p4p rankings for quite some time.

... It did have a bit of Blasfamy to it, huh? But here me out before the stoning: "That we know (Norris is way better than Broner). But when next to Sugar Ray, Hearns, Duran, Mugabi, Jackson and a few others, Norris is just.... Norris. So too will Broner be. If that!

In fact, next to Mayweather, Garcia, Thurman, Maidana, and even, GASP, Amir Khan, Broner will be just.... Broner!

I might be missing something, definitely wouldn't be the first time, but can't really fault Norris for missing guys he wasn't around for at respected weight no? Don't think Mugabi is among them but Norris did destroy him to claim his 1st strap. In fairness and at a stretch with Leonard being past it..Norris did white wash him also. A fight that Norris was actually the underdog for if I remember right and said he hated having to beat Leonard like that. Now Jackson..hey no shame in being removed from your senses by on of the purest punchers to date.

In top form Norris wasn't just there at 154 and falling short ala Broner when talking Mayweather, Garcia, Thurman or Maidana. Norris beat some top fellow champions and he was also blitzing a couple current 147 champions. When they ask Broner what his best win was he'll mumble 'DeMarco, Deleon and maybe Paulie' depending where the judges were sitting.