Terence Crawford vs. Julius Indongo ESPN

[Fenster]

Indongo, who is only getting this fight because he burgled two trinkets, wasn't even known a year ago, most fans have never seen him fight (just read the comments on here) yet are all excited/hyped because four silly belts are on the line.

Lets get this right - Indongo is a far bigger betting outsider than McGregor to beat Floyd. The silly Floyd mismatch is considered more competitive than the super duper shiny belts fight.

Indongo didn't look like a P4P world-conqueror beating a virtual "shot" Burns. He's a tall bloke with a rinse and repeat left hand that showed a good engine in a fight he was allowed to dominate and control.

Crawford KO within 6. (7/2)

So you big up Marriaga who has 0 good wins, is 0-3 in title fights for a fight moving up in weight. But steal the shine off a guy who is trying to do what has only been done once since the 80's and is fighting in his division. The division he has won 2 titles in traveling to his opponents home towns. Interesting completely backwards perspective.

I agree that Crawford wins though, just not within 6.

I never "bigged up" Marriaga.

My point is about FANS not fighters, there's no criticism or "shine stealing" going on.

If you understood my points you would realise the Marriaga situation is perfectly consistent with this. Belts dazzle your wide eyes but the substance behind them is all that matters. Marriaga is a better opponent than Indongo.

[Ron Swanson]

Indongo, who is only getting this fight because he burgled two trinkets, wasn't even known a year ago, most fans have never seen him fight (just read the comments on here) yet are all excited/hyped because four silly belts are on the line.

Lets get this right - Indongo is a far bigger betting outsider than McGregor to beat Floyd. The silly Floyd mismatch is considered more competitive than the super duper shiny belts fight.

Indongo didn't look like a P4P world-conqueror beating a virtual "shot" Burns. He's a tall bloke with a rinse and repeat left hand that showed a good engine in a fight he was allowed to dominate and control.

Crawford KO within 6. (7/2)

So you big up Marriaga who has 0 good wins, is 0-3 in title fights for a fight moving up in weight. But steal the shine off a guy who is trying to do what has only been done once since the 80's and is fighting in his division. The division he has won 2 titles in traveling to his opponents home towns. Interesting completely backwards perspective.

I agree that Crawford wins though, just not within 6.

I never "bigged up" Marriaga.

My point is about FANS not fighters, there's no criticism or "shine stealing" going on.

If you understood my points you would realise the Marriaga situation is perfectly consistent with this. Belts dazzle your wide eyes but the substance behind them is all that matters. Marriaga is a better opponent than Indongo.

You said he "burgled" and said he "was allowed to dominate". If you don't realizing that is stealing shine, you know what. You are clearly being deceptive again. It's your thing, I get it.

Suggesting I am about belts is just more of your deception. I constantly talk about fights. Fights.

You are the one that leads people, like calling Mijey a 140 fighter when he was at 130 just a couple fights ago. He isn't a 140 fight and you know it. But, again, leading, deceiving. Read your own words. You want to not steal shine, perhaps don't say guys burgled or were allowed. Just say he kicked their asses. Like what happened, not what you want people to see.

[Ron Swanson]

This dude just traveled to every champions home to fight and Fenster wants to disrespect that, fuck that. Indongu did exactly what all fighters should do

[Spicoli]

It's the Razor Ruddock'ism. When a rep is pretty much based on 2 big losses. At least Indongo was near same weight class and won what got him there.

[Fenster]

It's the Razor Ruddock'ism. When a rep is pretty much based on 2 big losses. At least Indongo was near same weight class and won what got him there.

If around today, Ruddock would be facing Lucas Browne? Parker? Wilder? Hughie Fury? Would you give him a chance, or the Lewis/Tyson losses exposed him?

In a day and age where belts are two-a-penny the quality per division still varies. A challenger in one division could easily be a "champion" in another. It's all circumstance, timing and "luck." If you base everything on belts then guys like Broner are the greats of this era. Many a world-class fighter never becomes "champion."

[walrus]

I am posting but did not read this thread since the fight. I was watching the undercards on a plane coming back from Arizona. It had been a miserable flight but the fight came on during the last leg betwixt Baltimore and Hartford. Normally I can't wait to get of the plane but moments prior to the fight the pilot announced final descent. I really was hoping that we would need a holding pattern so I could watch the fight. I love Crawford, everything he does in the ring is slick. I'm gonna watch it tomorrow on ZOG tube, if he lost I will be amazed. Anyway hope you all enjoyed the fight. I need to avoid this thread for a day or so.

[walrus]

Sorry meant to say I'll watch it on you tube. Probably take a break at like 2a and watch it. When I was watching the undercard the gentleman sitting next to me was leaning over watching it with me. I think he was a bit annoyed as my wife got a seat in business class next to him so I joined her, I think he was expecting the whole section to himself but in the end boxing brought us together

[Master]

Chisora had a work out.

[Primo Carnera]

Chisora had a work out.

[Master]

Chisora had a work out.

I meant Whyte.

The ref was horrible to let Whyte's opponent keep getting up and taking a beating.

[Master]

Crawford scores a knock down in round 2.

Crawford is poised and calm. Quality fighter.

[Master]

Crawford stops him with a body shot in the 3rd.

I thought the fight would be much harder.

Undisputed and undefeated superlightweight champion.

[Memphis]

@Master what the fuck are you doing?

[Master]

@Master what the fuck are you doing?

rbr after the event, I did not know what happened and had not read the previous page of posts.

[Fenster]

This dude just traveled to every champions home to fight and Fenster wants to disrespect that, fuck that. Indongu did exactly what all fighters should do

Stop lying. You don't understand my posts so instead of making incorrect assumptions just leave it.

I never once insulted Indongo or Crawford. If you and your friends think belts make a fighter great, fine. I don't. I judge fighters by how and who they fight. That's all.

((lets keep the topic about boxing/Crawford not each other ))