Ok.... so what do you REALLY think?

[TitoFan]

Tito why did you ask what people think when you have no interest in what they think unless they agree with you?

You argue your point... I argue mine. Is that what you construe to mean I have "no interest in what you think unless you agree with me"?
Hmm.... ok.

Please don't end up like Lyle and Brockton and turn this place into one of the crappier boxing forums that we all chose to avoid when posting here.

Beanz, you may not realize it... but you've been pushing this "so-and-so have turned this forum into crap and now everybody who's worth anything is avoiding it" agenda for like forever. It gets tiresome dude. People come... people go. It's how it is in all forums. Also, I pick and choose who I engage or pay attention to. These "conspiracy theories" really are becoming tiresome, bro. And I mean that in a constructive way.

You are basically saying that what is good for the goose is not good for the gander. NK cannot test fire any missiles and the USA demonstrated why that is unacceptable yesterday by......firing missiles.

We're going round and round. You and Miles gleefully ignore what I flatly state when I criticize both Trump AND Kim Jong-un. But you both ONLY read the Kim Jong-un part. If I didn't know any better, I'd swear you must both be related to the man.

I can see why from your conservative American standpoint that Miles and my views might seem outlandish, but they are anything but that. Here we are being moderate, and you are just signing up to the kind of blind extremism that Brock and Lyle submitted to a while ago.

"Moderate", Beanz, is seeing both sides of the equation and leveling criticism where criticism is deserved. Did you NOT see Miles' cute description of NK's threat to Guam?? Where Miles says NK was threatening to...... QUOTE: "drop some missiles into the sea around Guam"?? Does he and by extension do you REALLY think we're all mentally challenged over on this side? Did Miles really think that woeful misinterpretation of the truth was going to slip by unnoticed??



I'll keep stating the fact ad nauseaum.

Brock and Lyle criticize NK and defend Trump.

You and Miles defend NK and criticize Trump.

I criticize BOTH..... and catch hell from you and Miles for my troubles.



And yet you're the moderate ones?

[brocktonblockbust]

tito fuck them, stay safe from irma now

[Gandalf]

You gleefully ignore that I constantly say that the North Korean regime is bad too, Tito. It always ends up being in condensed form 'You are an identity crisis ladyboy, who hates America and worships Baba Huey'. You know, do I disagree with the genocide of the native population, do I disagree with the continual invasion and toppling of regimes (something ridiculous at about 70 or something since WW2)? Of course I do, yet to point any of this out just means you are a hater with your recent attitude. I think there is a big difference between disliking foreign policy and being a genuine hater. You won't see me arguing for the nuking of NYC. Yet you all turn a blind eye if Brock argues that on other countries, even going for China lately I see. Instead it's me that is the extremist as I said something about prefering to live next to NK than be a starving Gazan under occupied Israel. If I hated America I wouldn't worship at the altar of Lou Reed, I wouldn't say how much I respect its development during periods of the 19th century, I wouldn't read Burroughs. I love a lot of things about America and often those things were intelligent people able to look at the reality of their own society in a mature way and that means to accept its many faults too. I don't put you in the same category as Brock who has taken extremism to a new level, but lately you have resorted to a default mode that isn't so cool too.

NK threatened to put missiles into the sea around Guam, I am not sure what I am missing there. As usual they didn't go through with it, so what do you want to do? Have a big cry? You live in Puerto Rico. It is nowhere near the region, in fact North Korea is in the middle of nowhere geographically when it comes to the US. It seems like with the 1980's America needs a bogeyman and Kim is filling the role played by Gaddafi who seemed to get a buzz from it as people were actually talking about him for once. Beanz made the point that if you ignore them they tend to fade away, but the more you play the brinkmanship game the more it continues and I guess there is money to be made in that too. More arms sales, more media views, Kim looks strong at home, Americans have someone to 'fear'. Good for business. It's absurd the way it gets to you considering that North Korea is nowhere near the US and would be commiting suicide were it to attack the US. It is just common sense to point this out, but the fearmongers and warmongerers need an enemy and all I have been doing is pointing out contradictions and suggested negotiation is the only way to settle things. I think most would agree that this is a moderate position.

You cannot bomb your way to victory anymore. The world doesn't work like that now. Everybody can destroy everybody else. It's a new reality we have to live with. It's not nice, but it is what it is. If you want NK to give up its weapons then you do too and that is never going to happen. China has argued the moderate position that both sides are at fault and Putin has argued that sanctions are a 'Road to nowhere'. We have to face up to the reality that China and Russia, certainly when it comes to foreign policy, are now the moderates. Trump and Kim have both shown themselves to be extreme. Both have threatened nuclear war, shot missiles and tested nuclear bombs. The difference is that NK has no history of destroying other sovereign nations.

[GaMo]

Trump is a great leader and America are lucky to have him
He's making good decisions and trying his best to improve the country.
Too many people these days are so scared of being labelled homophobic
Racist or sexist. Trump doesn't care what people think and gets on with the job.

Obama was so desperate for approval and acceptance that he played it safe
Shied away from tough decisions and basically bent over and took it up the arse!

It's always been said that the democrats aren't willing to roll up their sleeves
And get their hands dirty and that accusation fits Obama (like it fit Clinton)
Whoever voted for Hilary should receive six uppercuts to the testicles
Before having a pineapple shoved up their arse
And the same treatment should be given to these hippy social justice pussies.

[Beanz]

Trump is a great leader and America are lucky to have him
He's making good decisions and trying his best to improve the country.
Too many people these days are so scared of being labelled homophobic
Racist or sexist. Trump doesn't care what people think and gets on with the job.

Obama was so desperate for approval and acceptance that he played it safe
Shied away from tough decisions and basically bent over and took it up the arse!

It's always been said that the democrats aren't willing to roll up their sleeves
And get their hands dirty and that accusation fits Obama (like it fit Clinton)
Whoever voted for Hilary should receive six uppercuts to the testicles
Before having a pineapple shoved up their arse
And the same treatment should be given to these hippy social justice pussies.

lol


Welcome back Bilbo

[walrus]

https://www.google.com/amp/www.indep...506.html%3famp

Congrats England you are on the list. 40 times nk has threatened various countries not only the us. One BBC writer put it at over 50. Remember the north holds war games as well but the shell South Korean islands and ships

[walrus]

And miles congress warned Clinton the things he was promising best Korea couldn't be delivered in time but that's besides the point. Best Korea broke over twenty deals with countries during the 2000

[El Kabong]

Tito why did you ask what people think when you have no interest in what they think unless they agree with you?

You argue your point... I argue mine. Is that what you construe to mean I have "no interest in what you think unless you agree with me"?
Hmm.... ok.

Please don't end up like Lyle and Brockton and turn this place into one of the crappier boxing forums that we all chose to avoid when posting here.

Beanz, you may not realize it... but you've been pushing this "so-and-so have turned this forum into crap and now everybody who's worth anything is avoiding it" agenda for like forever. It gets tiresome dude. People come... people go. It's how it is in all forums. Also, I pick and choose who I engage or pay attention to. These "conspiracy theories" really are becoming tiresome, bro. And I mean that in a constructive way.

You are basically saying that what is good for the goose is not good for the gander. NK cannot test fire any missiles and the USA demonstrated why that is unacceptable yesterday by......firing missiles.

We're going round and round. You and Miles gleefully ignore what I flatly state when I criticize both Trump AND Kim Jong-un. But you both ONLY read the Kim Jong-un part. If I didn't know any better, I'd swear you must both be related to the man.

I can see why from your conservative American standpoint that Miles and my views might seem outlandish, but they are anything but that. Here we are being moderate, and you are just signing up to the kind of blind extremism that Brock and Lyle submitted to a while ago.

"Moderate", Beanz, is seeing both sides of the equation and leveling criticism where criticism is deserved. Did you NOT see Miles' cute description of NK's threat to Guam?? Where Miles says NK was threatening to...... QUOTE: "drop some missiles into the sea around Guam"?? Does he and by extension do you REALLY think we're all mentally challenged over on this side? Did Miles really think that woeful misinterpretation of the truth was going to slip by unnoticed??



I'll keep stating the fact ad nauseaum.

Brock and Lyle criticize NK and defend Trump.

You and Miles defend NK and criticize Trump.

I criticize BOTH..... and catch hell from you and Miles for my troubles.



And yet you're the moderate ones?

God damn Tito don't hurt him

[Beanz]

Tito why did you ask what people think when you have no interest in what they think unless they agree with you?

You argue your point... I argue mine. Is that what you construe to mean I have "no interest in what you think unless you agree with me"?
Hmm.... ok.

Please don't end up like Lyle and Brockton and turn this place into one of the crappier boxing forums that we all chose to avoid when posting here.

Beanz, you may not realize it... but you've been pushing this "so-and-so have turned this forum into crap and now everybody who's worth anything is avoiding it" agenda for like forever. It gets tiresome dude. People come... people go. It's how it is in all forums. Also, I pick and choose who I engage or pay attention to. These "conspiracy theories" really are becoming tiresome, bro. And I mean that in a constructive way.

You are basically saying that what is good for the goose is not good for the gander. NK cannot test fire any missiles and the USA demonstrated why that is unacceptable yesterday by......firing missiles.

We're going round and round. You and Miles gleefully ignore what I flatly state when I criticize both Trump AND Kim Jong-un. But you both ONLY read the Kim Jong-un part. If I didn't know any better, I'd swear you must both be related to the man.

I can see why from your conservative American standpoint that Miles and my views might seem outlandish, but they are anything but that. Here we are being moderate, and you are just signing up to the kind of blind extremism that Brock and Lyle submitted to a while ago.

"Moderate", Beanz, is seeing both sides of the equation and leveling criticism where criticism is deserved. Did you NOT see Miles' cute description of NK's threat to Guam?? Where Miles says NK was threatening to...... QUOTE: "drop some missiles into the sea around Guam"?? Does he and by extension do you REALLY think we're all mentally challenged over on this side? Did Miles really think that woeful misinterpretation of the truth was going to slip by unnoticed??



I'll keep stating the fact ad nauseaum.

Brock and Lyle criticize NK and defend Trump.

You and Miles defend NK and criticize Trump.

I criticize BOTH..... and catch hell from you and Miles for my troubles.

No you don't. You have become like Brockton and Lyle. You just make stuff up instead of debating. You have all caught the Trump bug were you never take any responsibility for anything and just rewrite history and make shit up as you go along. You even admitted it and then they wore you down with Brocks "nobody owes anybody" crap (which he is obviously trotting out to cover for the fact that he is pissed off that he is not getting the American dream he was promised) and Lyle's free speech for everyone but those that do't jump on his bandwagon (that is why he has become so ghey that he has to put people people from the other side of the Atlantic on ignore because they walked down the same road as a communist but pretends that people Sieg Heiling with Swastikas are not necessarily Nazis and should be given a safe space)

And yet you're the moderate ones?

God damn Tito don't hurt him

[brocktonblockbust]

I think Tito got out the Vaseline there however right now Tito has better things to do than Vaselining a Janners ass cheeks

[Beanz]

I think Tito got out the Vaseline there however right now Tito has better things to do than Vaselining a Janners ass cheeks

Where does your obsession with men having anal sex come from ? Like you and Lyle he has asked what people think and then just inserted what he would like to think they think instead of having a grown up debate. It seems to be a rare skill here recently thanks to the crap you post. It's not much to ask , most American posters have no problem with people holding different opinions but you three now seem to think that not agreeing with your Trump led conservative drip fed media bullshit is compulsory, and a failure to do so is proof of you owning someone or winning, whatever that means you sad old farts.

[brocktonblockbust]

Oh OK Beanz, "and then INSERTED"...?