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Re: Ok.... so what do you REALLY think?
You gleefully ignore that I constantly say that the North Korean regime is bad too, Tito. It always ends up being in condensed form 'You are an identity crisis ladyboy, who hates America and worships Baba Huey'. You know, do I disagree with the genocide of the native population, do I disagree with the continual invasion and toppling of regimes (something ridiculous at about 70 or something since WW2)? Of course I do, yet to point any of this out just means you are a hater with your recent attitude. I think there is a big difference between disliking foreign policy and being a genuine hater. You won't see me arguing for the nuking of NYC. Yet you all turn a blind eye if Brock argues that on other countries, even going for China lately I see. Instead it's me that is the extremist as I said something about prefering to live next to NK than be a starving Gazan under occupied Israel. If I hated America I wouldn't worship at the altar of Lou Reed, I wouldn't say how much I respect its development during periods of the 19th century, I wouldn't read Burroughs. I love a lot of things about America and often those things were intelligent people able to look at the reality of their own society in a mature way and that means to accept its many faults too. I don't put you in the same category as Brock who has taken extremism to a new level, but lately you have resorted to a default mode that isn't so cool too.
NK threatened to put missiles into the sea around Guam, I am not sure what I am missing there. As usual they didn't go through with it, so what do you want to do? Have a big cry? You live in Puerto Rico. It is nowhere near the region, in fact North Korea is in the middle of nowhere geographically when it comes to the US. It seems like with the 1980's America needs a bogeyman and Kim is filling the role played by Gaddafi who seemed to get a buzz from it as people were actually talking about him for once. Beanz made the point that if you ignore them they tend to fade away, but the more you play the brinkmanship game the more it continues and I guess there is money to be made in that too. More arms sales, more media views, Kim looks strong at home, Americans have someone to 'fear'. Good for business. It's absurd the way it gets to you considering that North Korea is nowhere near the US and would be commiting suicide were it to attack the US. It is just common sense to point this out, but the fearmongers and warmongerers need an enemy and all I have been doing is pointing out contradictions and suggested negotiation is the only way to settle things. I think most would agree that this is a moderate position.
You cannot bomb your way to victory anymore. The world doesn't work like that now. Everybody can destroy everybody else. It's a new reality we have to live with. It's not nice, but it is what it is. If you want NK to give up its weapons then you do too and that is never going to happen. China has argued the moderate position that both sides are at fault and Putin has argued that sanctions are a 'Road to nowhere'. We have to face up to the reality that China and Russia, certainly when it comes to foreign policy, are now the moderates. Trump and Kim have both shown themselves to be extreme. Both have threatened nuclear war, shot missiles and tested nuclear bombs. The difference is that NK has no history of destroying other sovereign nations.
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