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    Default Re: Is Mike Tyson showing PD signs?

    Quote Originally Posted by GaMo View Post
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    I don't get the recent fascination with CTE
    It seems to be a hot topic in contact sports.

    Hearns shows signs of it whereas Leonard
    Hagler and Duran appear to be just fine.

    Toney shows signs of it whereas Hopkins
    Jones and Tarver appear to be just fine.

    Bowe shows signs of it whereas Lewis
    Holyfield and Tyson appear to be just fine.

    That's nine fighters who don't have it
    And three that might. It's not a huge problem.
    It is for the 3 that might have it. Bear in mind , these are the most successful fighters , who perceivably get hit less and it's a possible 25% rate.
    What about the less skilled journeymen who get hit for fun?
    Bowe took a load against both Holyfield and Golota
    That's five fights in which he absorbed a lot of punishment.

    Toney had 90 professional fights and boxed for almost 30 years
    As a professional (which doesn't found his amateur career)
    He also fought much larger men due to his fake weight.

    Hearns had 67 fights and wasn't built for taking damage
    Again he had a long amateur career and sparred a lot
    He also went on too long so they were all contributing factors.

    If those guys didn't box what would they have done?
    They were given the opportunity to make millions.
    Totally agree, it's their choice , they're all grown men and it gave them a good life. And I don't have all the answers, I'm no doctor.
    But to say "I can't see what the fuss is about", just seems a bit flippant.
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    People NEVER talk about the drug abuse (both legal and illegal), poor diet, lack of sleep (long hours of training and concentration) and oxygen to the brain (due to weight draining) and other physiological factors play a part in the brain damage fighters incur.

    To say that all boxers should get brain damage because they box is like saying all persons with brain damage were boxers.

    From my cursory glance, the guys who have slurred speech and traumatic brain disease can either be traced back to 1. Hereditary issues, or 2. One or more of the above aforementioned issues.

    Drug abuse is a main key factor along with weight draining. Also, to be honest, most of these guys were barely literate before they started to fight. James Toney wasn't a Rhode Scholar and other guys just were street thugs who barely could make a sentence. Sure, some guys took too much punishment- Hearns, Norris (Terry), Benitez and now Shane Mosely, but.... NO ONE TOLD THEM TO STAY IN WAY PAST THEIR PRIMES, DOING THE SAME THINGS, WHILE BEING POUNDED BY GUYS YOUNGER, FASTER AND NATURALLY STRONGER THAN THEY WERE!!

    To some extent, you have to be like Oscar and Floyd- both at the top of their games, both got out just when they should have before someone kills them in the ring!
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    Actually, to be fair, the sport has come a LONG WAY from the brute-carnage that happened during the 70s and 80s. It's amazing some of those men are still standing. Truthfully.
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    Default Re: Is Mike Tyson showing PD signs?

    Look at Wladimir Klitschko, he had 140 fights as an amateur
    And 69 fights as a professional (a lot at the highest level)
    And he still speaks clearly and seems fine at 41.

    That's a guy who was knocked out four times
    And knocked down over ten times but he lived a clean lifestyle
    And didn't abuse his body between fights by gaining lots of weight.

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    I think fights are stopped way too early nowadays. Tyson didn't really take any punishment except against Buster Douglas and Lennox Lewis. I would not say that Holyfield did any damage to Tyson

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    Default Re: Is Mike Tyson showing PD signs?

    Tommy Hearns had harder and more brutal fights every day in the gym than he ever did under the lights, on TV and with a neutral referee.
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    Tommy Hearns had harder and more brutal fights every day in the gym than he ever did under the lights, on TV and with a neutral referee.
    Here he is swapping shots with the greatest...

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    Default Re: Is Mike Tyson showing PD signs?

    It's weird really, you get some guys just starting out like Gervonta Davis who make Mike sound like a word smith. Chances are he had a smoke, maybe not, before these talk show interviews. The guy is doing regular stage appearances with decent crowds so not like he's talking with a mouth full of marbles.

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    Seems clear from his statement he isn't punch drunk.
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