Golovkin-Canelo OFFICIAL!!!- Sept 16th

[Batman]

Big undercard as well

Gennady Golovkin (c) v Canelo Alvarez
Joseph Diaz Jr. v Jorge Lara - Featherweight
Ryan Caballero v Diego De La Hoya - Junior featherweight
Ryan Martin v Francisco Rojo - Lightweight
Vergil Ortiz v Cesar Valenzuela - Junior welterweight
Marlen Esparza v Aracely Palacios - Female flyweight
Serhii Bohachuk v TBA - Junior middleweight
Nicola Adams v Alexandra Vlajk - Female junior bantamweight

Not sure what you mean by big. Like number of fights? Because Joseph Diaz is the only other good name on that list. It's a weak undercard even for PPV. I say that because PPV under cards are generally pretty weak.

yeah big as in lots of fights, not quality, although I always enjoy seeing TBA fight

[powerpuncher]

Big undercard as well

Gennady Golovkin (c) v Canelo Alvarez
Joseph Diaz Jr. v Jorge Lara - Featherweight
Ryan Caballero v Diego De La Hoya - Junior featherweight
Ryan Martin v Francisco Rojo - Lightweight
Vergil Ortiz v Cesar Valenzuela - Junior welterweight
Marlen Esparza v Aracely Palacios - Female flyweight
Serhii Bohachuk v TBA - Junior middleweight
Nicola Adams v Alexandra Vlajk - Female junior bantamweight

Not sure what you mean by big. Like number of fights? Because Joseph Diaz is the only other good name on that list. It's a weak undercard even for PPV. I say that because PPV under cards are generally pretty weak.

yeah big as in lots of fights, not quality, although I always enjoy seeing TBA fight

TBA generally loses though

[GaMo]

This fight doesn't even need an undercard
Question, will Alvarez be pound for pound number one
When he dominates Golovkin or does he need to do more?
I guess Crawford is the number one at the moment.

[powerpuncher]

This fight doesn't even need an undercard
Question, will Alvarez be pound for pound number one
When he dominates Golovkin or does he need to do more?
I guess Crawford is the number one at the moment.

Even if somehow Canelo beats GGG, IMO he still wouldn't even have a case for #1 p4p. GGG is a great fighter but I think a bit overrated. He was outside my top 5 not too long ago but with the loss of chocolatito, Kovalev pending on how well he comes back, and Rigo being inactive, he may have snuck back in.

Canelo is a fringe p4p fighter so if he does win somehow, he becomes a legit one and maybe gets to around the 5 spot depending how impressive the win is.

The better question is, if GGG dominates, does Canelo have any case for being a p4p fighter?

[Alpha]

Big undercard as well

Gennady Golovkin (c) v Canelo Alvarez
Joseph Diaz Jr. v Jorge Lara - Featherweight
Ryan Caballero v Diego De La Hoya - Junior featherweight
Ryan Martin v Francisco Rojo - Lightweight
Vergil Ortiz v Cesar Valenzuela - Junior welterweight
Marlen Esparza v Aracely Palacios - Female flyweight
Serhii Bohachuk v TBA - Junior middleweight
Nicola Adams v Alexandra Vlajk - Female junior bantamweight

Not sure what you mean by big. Like number of fights? Because Joseph Diaz is the only other good name on that list. It's a weak undercard even for PPV. I say that because PPV under cards are generally pretty weak.

I'm looking forward to the Caballero/ De La Hoya fight as well

[powerpuncher]

Big undercard as well

Gennady Golovkin (c) v Canelo Alvarez
Joseph Diaz Jr. v Jorge Lara - Featherweight
Ryan Caballero v Diego De La Hoya - Junior featherweight
Ryan Martin v Francisco Rojo - Lightweight
Vergil Ortiz v Cesar Valenzuela - Junior welterweight
Marlen Esparza v Aracely Palacios - Female flyweight
Serhii Bohachuk v TBA - Junior middleweight
Nicola Adams v Alexandra Vlajk - Female junior bantamweight

Not sure what you mean by big. Like number of fights? Because Joseph Diaz is the only other good name on that list. It's a weak undercard even for PPV. I say that because PPV under cards are generally pretty weak.

I'm looking forward to the Caballero/ De La Hoya fight as well

Sure but it's more of a Friday night fights main event type of fight. It should be a decent scrap but nothing great

[Fenster]

Caballero-DeLaHoya looks a good fight (on paper at least), bookies can't split them, Oscar rolling the dice.

@Batman this undercard makes our Sky/Matchroom ones look like gold.

[GaMo]

This fight doesn't even need an undercard
Question, will Alvarez be pound for pound number one
When he dominates Golovkin or does he need to do more?
I guess Crawford is the number one at the moment.

Even if somehow Canelo beats GGG, IMO he still wouldn't even have a case for #1 p4p. GGG is a great fighter but I think a bit overrated. He was outside my top 5 not too long ago but with the loss of chocolatito, Kovalev pending on how well he comes back, and Rigo being inactive, he may have snuck back in.

Canelo is a fringe p4p fighter so if he does win somehow, he becomes a legit one and maybe gets to around the 5 spot depending how impressive the win is.

The better question is, if GGG dominates, does Canelo have any case for being a p4p fighter?

Golovkin is overrated and the hype will be exposed soon
But Chocolatito was even more overrated in my opinion.

1. Terence Crawford
2. Andre Ward
3. Saul Alvarez
4. Gennady Golovkin
5. Vasyl Lomachenko

That's how I'd rank them and the winner Saturday
Can make a strong case for being the number one
Canelo will move above Ward for sure.

[Alpha]

I hope you stick around after Saturday.

[GaMo]

I hope you stick around after Saturday.

I'll be here to hear all the excuses

[powerpuncher]

This fight doesn't even need an undercard
Question, will Alvarez be pound for pound number one
When he dominates Golovkin or does he need to do more?
I guess Crawford is the number one at the moment.

Even if somehow Canelo beats GGG, IMO he still wouldn't even have a case for #1 p4p. GGG is a great fighter but I think a bit overrated. He was outside my top 5 not too long ago but with the loss of chocolatito, Kovalev pending on how well he comes back, and Rigo being inactive, he may have snuck back in.

Canelo is a fringe p4p fighter so if he does win somehow, he becomes a legit one and maybe gets to around the 5 spot depending how impressive the win is.

The better question is, if GGG dominates, does Canelo have any case for being a p4p fighter?

Golovkin is overrated and the hype will be exposed soon
But Chocolatito was even more overrated in my opinion.

1. Terence Crawford
2. Andre Ward
3. Saul Alvarez
4. Gennady Golovkin
5. Vasyl Lomachenko

That's how I'd rank them and the winner Saturday
Can make a strong case for being the number one
Canelo will move above Ward for sure.

Wow. I feel that you highly overrate Canelo. Even if he beats GGG, I doubt I will have him that high let alone before that. If Canelo were that good, I would expect him to beat GGG pretty easily.

I'm pretty excited to see Canelo get beat and see what your reaction is. Just don't run away after he loses.

[TitoFan]

I still maintain Canelo made a tactical error when he fought JCC Jr. at 170. He lost any bargaining chip he may have had to try and force GGG to 154. He couldn't say any longer "I'm not a middleweight." Finally he had to accept the challenge against GGG at 160, and it'll be the only time in his career that he won't be facing someone he outweighs by 20-30 pounds at fight night.

I'm going to enjoy this one.