Gennady Golovkin vs Saul Alvarez

[powerpuncher]

Blimey @GaMo I understand that you have a stonking hard on for old ginger pubes but your relentless unwavering faith must be exhausting.

I don't question who will win because I already know the outcome
The question is, will Canelo win on points or will he win by knockout?
Alvarez losing is not a possible outcome in my mind.

It's posts like these that make me question how serious you are. You seem to know some boxing at least but to say that Canelo wins 100% sure if just insane even for a Canelo lover.

[X]

Canelo is a fantastic fighter, definitely elite level.

Good chin, lots of power, very good counterpuncher, quick hands, excellent technique. vastly experienced yet still in his prime.

Of course there is a good chance he win win, a strong and seasoned counterpuncher is exactly the sort of fighter who could be GGG's kryptonite.

[GAME]

I rewatched afew of these guys fights yesterday – revision for Saturday. Canelo vs Smith, Floyd, Cotto, & Golovkin vs Jacobs, Lemiuex. The most convincing performance from any fight was Triple G’s display against Lemiuex. He threw 5 x the middleweight average of jabs that night so I cant help thinking this will be factor on Sat. I struggle to think of many fights in history where the smaller guy was able to move up and beat the bigger man who had a better jab. If he fights like that on Sat it’s a hard night for Canelo.

Lemiuex - I noticed that in round 7 Golovkin was briefly stunned by a left hook that forced him to reposition his feet. He came back blasting so clearly wasn’t hurt and shook the affects immediately. It’s the only time I’ve seen him properly react from getting hit although its abit like looking through Floyds tapes for signs of weakness you search for a while desperate to find some chink in the armour but what you find is insignificant. Alvarez can’t take any confidence from that.

Jacobs - Golovkin couldn’t do what he wanted in the Jacobs fight. Its was the 1^st time he couldn’t dictate the action. “Helpless” is probably the wrong word but the feeling I got from watching it is that he had to just leave it in the judges hands and hope for the best. Its a feeling we may get again on Saturday. Something else to consider is that Golovkin isn’t as comfortable in exchanges as you’d think. Jacobs made him cover up and go back whenever he opened up. Canelo has quick combos too so I can see him having success if it’s an up-close battle (but I don’t expect it to be for the 1^st 6 rounds)

Smith - Reconfirmed he is a quality fighter who’s solid and use to being the boss but he was getting caught a lot by Smith. We are led to be belive he is great defensively because of his upper body movement but Smith was unloading on him having success on the ropes. Bit of a worry going into this fight with a bigger guy who wont fold as easily as Smith did. Canelo also was good at using feints in this fight forcing Smith to lead so he could counter. This worked well vs a guy of Smiths level. Also the right uppercut worked all night. Smith couldn’t avoid it. With Golovkins amateur experience Im not sure these things would work as much on him.

Mayweather - Canelo has improved a lot since the Floyd fight so unfair to judge him on it. The only thing still relevant to take away from this is that he struggles with jabs and if his game plan isn’t working he doesn’t have another gear or plan B to switch to.

Cotto - The Cotto fight reminded me just how much smaller Miguel was in that fight. I watched the HBO version which kept going on about how much bigger Canelo was and that Cottos punches had no weight in them. It was true, he never seemed a threat. I noticed that Cotto wasn’t there to have a fight, he just wanted to get through the rounds and steal a decision which was naïve thinking. In hindsight Alvarez should have got a stoppage or at least applied the pressure more to make it clearer. He appeared to fight within himself. I don’t think he gassed but it appeared there was almost a silent agreement between him and Cotto to take rests when they need it without the other taking advantage. Golovkin wouldn’t oblige to that.. He will be challenged more on Saturday, made to fight which will bring out the best in him.

[east end bob]

all the talk about the JACOBS fight. It totally undermines how good JACOBS is. GGG solved the problem as he always does. As I have said before, only Monzon, in my opinion, had the ability to adjust to suit the fighter and beat him at his own game. He is special and should prove it against another great fighter, who is not big enough and too one dimensional to take GGG. Nevertheless, a great fight in store. Well done Oscar.

[GaMo]

Lemiuex is seriously shit! I don’t know why people on here rate him
Or consider that win to be anything special? The guy was stopped by Rubio
And Rubio is nothing more than a whipping boy for top middleweights.

Lemiuex is an average fighter with a good left hook and that’s it
He's no world beater and he's lucky he ever held a belt to be honest.

As for Mayweather, he would have beaten Golovkin
He's far more skilled and is just on another level.

[Batman]

Awww GaMo's toys just went flying out of the pram

[TitoFan]

Lemiuex is seriously shit! I don’t know why people on here rate him
Or consider that win to be anything special? The guy was stopped by Rubio
And Rubio is nothing more than a whipping boy for top middleweights.

Lemiuex is an average fighter with a good left hook and that’s it
He's no world beater and he's lucky he ever held a belt to be honest.

As for Mayweather, he would have beaten Golovkin
He's far more skilled and is just on another level.

Wow bro, I know you're a diehard Canelo fan, but.......

Lemieux shit? I think he'd beat Canelo at MW, that's how shit Lemieux is.

Then Floyd beating GGG? Now I know you've gone over the edge.

They shouldn't even be compared, as GGG has never shown any inclination to fight at any other weight but 160, a la old school.

So if they fought, it would have to be at 160. Suicide for Floyd. Don't mistake Floyd's embarrassing shutout of Canelo for thinking he would have success against GGG. Two different animals in there. Floyd showed the world Canelo didn't belong in the same ring with him. GGG would be a different story altogether. Too big. Now if GGG were to starve himself down to 154 or less.... then we might be talking a different story, as Floyd would be more comfortable at that weight.

[imp]

Lemiuex is seriously shit! I don’t know why people on here rate him
Or consider that win to be anything special? The guy was stopped by Rubio
And Rubio is nothing more than a whipping boy for top middleweights.

Lemiuex is an average fighter with a good left hook and that’s it
He's no world beater and he's lucky he ever held a belt to be honest.

As for Mayweather, he would have beaten Golovkin
He's far more skilled and is just on another level.

Floyd would have beaten GGG at 154 and below.

Ward would have beaten GGG st 168 and above.

GGG is fortunate enough to not have a Floyd or Ward at his weight class.

He just has a little Canelo that has already been schooled by Floyd and Lara.

[Master]

Lemiuex is seriously shit! I don’t know why people on here rate him
Or consider that win to be anything special? The guy was stopped by Rubio
And Rubio is nothing more than a whipping boy for top middleweights.

Lemiuex is an average fighter with a good left hook and that’s it
He's no world beater and he's lucky he ever held a belt to be honest.

As for Mayweather, he would have beaten Golovkin
He's far more skilled and is just on another level.

Floyd would have beaten GGG at 154 and below.

Ward would have beaten GGG st 168 and above.

GGG is fortunate enough to not have a Floyd or Ward at his weight class.

He just has a little Canelo that has already been schooled by Floyd and Lara.

GGG ass rapes Floyd at middleweight and even if Floyd had the balls to fight him at light middle he would have stipulated he come in at 155 lb just to get even more of an advantage.

[imp]

Lemiuex is seriously shit! I don’t know why people on here rate him
Or consider that win to be anything special? The guy was stopped by Rubio
And Rubio is nothing more than a whipping boy for top middleweights.

Lemiuex is an average fighter with a good left hook and that’s it
He's no world beater and he's lucky he ever held a belt to be honest.

As for Mayweather, he would have beaten Golovkin
He's far more skilled and is just on another level.

Floyd would have beaten GGG at 154 and below.

Ward would have beaten GGG st 168 and above.

GGG is fortunate enough to not have a Floyd or Ward at his weight class.

He just has a little Canelo that has already been schooled by Floyd and Lara.

GGG ass rapes Floyd at middleweight and even if Floyd had the balls to fight him at light middle he would have stipulated he come in at 155 lb just to get even more of an advantage.

At 40 years of age and 1 fight every 2-3 years he has gave every advantage away.

He has nothing to prove to anyone anymore..just accept it.

[GaMo]

@Batman I just find it strange that folks on here routinely criticise Floyd and try to pick holes in his career but then suck off somebody like Lemuiex! If David was 10% the fighter Floyd was then he'd be a lot better than he is now.

[Master]

@Batman I just find it strange that folks on here routinely criticise Floyd and try to pick holes in his career but then suck off somebody like Lemuiex! If David was 10% the fighter Floyd was then he'd be a lot better than he is now.

Forget Floyd he is retired and embarrassed with his last fight.

Lemuiex would be 50/50 fight against Canelo.

[Batman]

@Batman I just find it strange that folks on here routinely criticise Floyd and try to pick holes in his career but then suck off somebody like Lemuiex! If David was 10% the fighter Floyd was then he'd be a lot better than he is now.

I think the main difference between the two is that Floyd is a talker and Lemuiex is a fighter, Lemmy is happy to get embroiled in a war if it is necessary and the fact that he is on the fringe of the best but is always poking around and not giving up is endearing

Floyd, for as good as he was 'never took risks' and 'his style was boring' and he is the self proclaimed 'TBE' all that shit gets peoples backs up.

don't take offense over the hate that Floyd gets and the love that Lemmy gets, its more about personality and I don't think that even @Master would suggest that Lemmy is a better boxer than Floyd

And Master would rather bathe in his own shit than praise Floyd.